From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: Ten percent test
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:28:38 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704061928.39155.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1175850471.22272.8.camel@Homer.simpson.net>
On Friday 06 April 2007 19:07, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 11:03 +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > On Thursday 05 April 2007 21:54, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > - fiftyp.c: noticeable, but alot better than previously!
> >
> > fiftyp.c seems to have been stumbled across by accident as having an
> > effect when Xenofon was trying to recreate Mike's 50% x 3 test case. I
> > suggest a ten percent version like the following would be more useful as
> > a test for the harmful effect discovered in fiftyp.c. (/me throws in
> > obligatory code style change).
> >
> > Starts 15 processes that sleep ten times longer than they run. Change
> > forks to 15 times the number of cpus you have and it should work on any
> > size hardware.
>
> I was more focused on the general case, but all I should have to do to
> de-claw all of these sleep exploits is account rr time (only a couple of
> lines, done and building now). It's only a couple of lines.
The more you try to "de-claw" these sleep exploits the less effective you make
your precious interactive estimator. Feel free to keep adding endless tweaks
to undo the other tweaks in order to try and achieve what SD has by design.
You'll end up with an incresingly complex state machine design of
interactivity tweaks and interactivity throttlers all fighting each other to
the point where the intearactivity estimator doesn't do anything. What's the
point in that? Eventually you'll have an estimator throttled to the point it
does nothing and you end up with something far less interactive than SD which
is as interactive as fairness allows, unlike mainline.
--
-ck
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-06 9:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-28 16:37 [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Con Kolivas
2007-03-28 17:34 ` [ck] " Prakash Punnoor
2007-04-01 6:40 ` Prakash Punnoor
[not found] ` <b14e81f00704010724i3155a16en91074ab789416f3d@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-01 20:03 ` Prakash Punnoor
2007-03-28 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-28 23:44 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-29 5:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 6:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 6:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 8:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 12:55 ` [ck] " michael chang
2007-04-03 2:35 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03 2:37 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03 5:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 6:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 6:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03 6:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 11:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 13:18 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-04-05 15:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:54 ` [test] sched: SD-latest versus Mike's latest Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 12:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 16:08 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-05 19:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 20:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 1:03 ` Ten percent test Con Kolivas
2007-04-06 9:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 9:28 ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2007-04-06 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 10:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07 6:50 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-07 16:12 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 18:23 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 20:30 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 10:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 10:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 17:04 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 4:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 4:08 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 5:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:01 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:33 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 12:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:57 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 4:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 5:23 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 6:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:56 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 4:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 5:16 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 6:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 8:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 18:51 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 4:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 12:14 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 13:27 ` Andreas Mohr
2007-04-09 19:54 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 14:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 17:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 17:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 19:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 19:56 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 15:37 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-07 19:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07 20:31 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-09 18:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 18:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-07 16:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 13:08 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09 5:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 11:26 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09 16:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-22 10:48 ` [ck] " Martin Steigerwald
2007-04-22 11:15 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-10 2:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-10 11:23 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-10 12:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 10:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 10:57 ` [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 6:36 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-23 8:58 ` Andrew Morton
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