From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Ten percent test
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:44:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070409184414.GX2986@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070409180356.GA17739@elte.hu>
* William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com> wrote:
>> I strongly suggest assembling a battery of cleanly and properly
>> written, configurable testcases, and scripting a series of regression
>> tests as opposed to just randomly running kernel compiles and relying
>> on Braille.
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 08:03:56PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> there's interbench, written by Con (with the purpose of improving
> RSDL/SD), which does exactly that, but vanilla and SD performs quite the
> same in those tests.
> it's quite hard to test interactivity, because it's both subjective and
> because even for objective workloads, things depend so much on exact
> circumstances. So the best way is to wait for actual complaints, and/or
> actual testcases that trigger badness, and victims^H^H^H^H^H testers.
> (also note that often it needs _that precise_ workload to trigger some
> badness. For example make -j depends on the kind of X shell terminal
> that is used - gterm behaves differently from xterm, etc.)
Interactivity will probably have to stay squishy. The DoS affairs like
fiftyp.c, tenp.c, etc. are more of what I had in mind. There are also
a number of instances where CPU bandwidth distributions are gauged by
top(1) with noninteractive tests where the scriptable testcase affair
should be coming into play.
There are other, relatively obvious testcases for basic functionality
missing, too. For instance, where is the testcase to prove that nice
levels have the intended effect upon CPU bandwidth distribution between
sets of CPU-bound tasks? Or one that gauges the CPU bandwidth
distribution between a task that sleeps some (command-line configurable)
percentage of the time and some (command-line configurable) number of
competing CPU-bound tasks? Or one that gauges the CPU bandwidth
distribution between sets of cooperating processes competing with
ordinary CPU-bound processes? Can it be proven that any of this is
staying constant across interactivity or other changes? Is any of it
being changed as an unintended side-effect? Are the CPU bandwidth
distributions among such sets of competing tasks even consciously decided?
There should be readily-available answers to these questions, but they
are not so.
-- wli
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-09 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-28 16:37 [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Con Kolivas
2007-03-28 17:34 ` [ck] " Prakash Punnoor
2007-04-01 6:40 ` Prakash Punnoor
[not found] ` <b14e81f00704010724i3155a16en91074ab789416f3d@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-01 20:03 ` Prakash Punnoor
2007-03-28 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-28 23:44 ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-29 5:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 6:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 6:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 8:18 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 12:55 ` [ck] " michael chang
2007-04-03 2:35 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03 2:37 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03 5:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 6:00 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 6:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03 6:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 11:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 13:18 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-04-05 15:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:54 ` [test] sched: SD-latest versus Mike's latest Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 12:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 16:08 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-05 19:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 20:29 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 1:03 ` Ten percent test Con Kolivas
2007-04-06 9:07 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 9:28 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-06 10:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 10:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07 6:50 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-07 16:12 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 18:23 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 20:30 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 10:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 10:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 17:04 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 4:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 4:08 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 5:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:01 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:33 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 12:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:57 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 4:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 5:23 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 6:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:56 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 4:17 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 5:16 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 6:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 8:24 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 18:51 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 4:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 12:14 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 13:27 ` Andreas Mohr
2007-04-09 19:54 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 14:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 17:05 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 17:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 19:09 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 19:56 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 15:37 ` Rene Herman
2007-04-07 19:14 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07 20:31 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-09 18:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 18:44 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2007-04-07 16:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 13:08 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09 5:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 11:26 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09 16:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-22 10:48 ` [ck] " Martin Steigerwald
2007-04-22 11:15 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-10 2:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-10 11:23 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-10 12:04 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 10:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 10:57 ` [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 6:36 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-23 8:58 ` Andrew Morton
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