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From: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>
To: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dave Dillow <dave@thedillows.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Subject: Re: I give up
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:08:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070410160817.GA32747@aepfle.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200704100351.33699.gene.heskett@gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 10, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Tuesday 10 April 2007, Olaf Hering wrote:
> >On Mon, Apr 09, Dave Dillow wrote:
> >> It's not /dev he's backing up -- its /home, /usr, and others. GNU tar
> >> saves the device and inode numbers from the {,l}stat() call on each
> >> file and decides it is a new file if either number changes from run to
> >> run.
> >
> >So fix tar to not do silly things.
> >Kernel major:minor numbers are not stable.

I forgot to add: '.. not stable across reboots.'

> YOU Tell that to the tar/star people, they are flabbergasted that its not 
> stable.  It apparently is for every other OS tar can be run on.

They probably have a point with the st_dev usage.
You better find out why your major:minor pairs keep jumping around.
Simply because the 'not stable across reboot' statement holds only for
added/removed disks and maybe if the detection order changes.
If your setup relies on a certain order, make sure the drivers get
loaded in a fixed order. Its not clear from your other mails what
exactly caused it. If its only due to a temporary change in
testkernels, noone can do anything about it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-10 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-09 14:07 I give up Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 14:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 15:37   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 16:49     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 18:36         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 19:38         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 21:35           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 22:22             ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10  1:27               ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  1:40                 ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10  2:01                   ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  7:12                   ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-10  7:51                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  8:19                       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 16:08                       ` Olaf Hering [this message]
2007-04-10 17:29                         ` David Lang
2007-04-10 16:14                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11  3:54                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:39                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 15:51                             ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:29                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 20:27                                 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 21:16                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 21:26                                     ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:27                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  7:53                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 12:24                       ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-10 20:45                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 19:05                       ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11  4:01                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 14:46                           ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11 15:07                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:12                             ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-11 16:43                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-11 17:03                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10  3:47                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  3:41             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:11     ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 19:49       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 20:08         ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 20:11           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:08         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:32           ` Ralf Baechle
2007-04-09 20:44             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:51               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 20:33           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-09 20:47             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  3:34           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  3:38             ` John Stoffel
2007-04-10  6:50             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  6:59             ` CaT
2007-04-10 17:52             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11  3:57               ` Gene Heskett

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