From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
mingo@elte.hu, dipankar@in.ibm.com, dino@in.ibm.com,
masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] Clean up workqueue.c with respect to the freezer based cpu-hotplug
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:52:20 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070412022220.GA10176@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070403171820.GA8646@in.ibm.com>
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:48:20PM +0530, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> > Actually, we should do this before destroy_workqueue() calls flush_workqueue().
> > Otherwise flush_cpu_workqueue() can hang forever in a similar manner.
>
> Yep. I guess these are a class of freezer deadlocks very similar to vfork
> parent waiting on child case. I get a feeling these should become common
> outside of kthread too (A waits on B for something, B gets frozen, which
> means A won't freeze causing freezer to fail). Can freezer detect this
> dependency somehow and thaw B automatically? Probably not that easy ..
I wonder if there is some value in "enforcing" an order in which
processes get frozen i.e freeze A first before B. That may solve the
deadlocks we have been discussing wrt kthread_stop and flush_workqueue
as well.
The idea is similar to how deadlock wrt multiple locks are solved -
where a ordering is enforced. Take Lock A first before Lock B.
If process A waits on B (like in kthread_stop or flush_workqueue), then if we:
1. Insert A and B in a list (freeze_me_first_list)
2. Have freezer scan freeze_me_first_list before the master
task-list, so that it:
2a. "freezes A and waits for A to get frozen" first
2b. "freezes B and waits for B to get frozen" next
then we would avoid the nastiness of "B getting frozen first and A doesnt
freeze because of that" with lesser code changes?
--
Regards,
vatsa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-12 2:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-02 5:34 [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] Enhance process freezer interface for usage beyond software suspend Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 13:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 20:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-06 14:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-06 22:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-07 9:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-07 9:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-09 3:04 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 7:59 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 9:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:59 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02 5:37 ` [PATCH 2/8] Make process freezer reentrant Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 9:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:38 ` [PATCH 3/8] Use process freezer for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 10:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 12:14 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 13:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 17:27 ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 17:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:47 ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 22:22 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-14 18:48 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 5:39 ` [PATCH 4/8] Rip out lock_cpu_hotplug() Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:40 ` [PATCH 5/8] __cpu_up: use singlethreaded workqueue Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 12:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02 5:41 ` [PATCH 6/8] Make non-singlethreaded workqueues freezeable by default Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-02 5:42 ` [PATCH 7/8] Clean up workqueue.c with respect to the freezer based cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 11:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 13:59 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 15:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 17:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 15:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04 17:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 12:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-12 2:22 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2007-04-12 10:01 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-12 16:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-13 9:46 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:42 ` [PATCH 8/8] Make kernel threads freezeable for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 6:16 ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 9:28 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 12:42 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 14:16 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 18:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03 12:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 14:15 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-04 3:15 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:41 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-04 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 12:24 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 13:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-03 12:01 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-03 20:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 10:06 ` utrace merge Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-04 18:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 14:01 ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy
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