From: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
To: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
mingo@elte.hu, dipankar@in.ibm.com, dino@in.ibm.com,
masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] Clean up workqueue.c with respect to the freezer based cpu-hotplug
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:31:44 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070412100144.GA6673@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070412022220.GA10176@in.ibm.com>
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:52:20AM +0530, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> I wonder if there is some value in "enforcing" an order in which
> processes get frozen i.e freeze A first before B. That may solve the
> deadlocks we have been discussing wrt kthread_stop and flush_workqueue
> as well.
>
> The idea is similar to how deadlock wrt multiple locks are solved -
> where a ordering is enforced. Take Lock A first before Lock B.
>
> If process A waits on B (like in kthread_stop or flush_workqueue), then if we:
>
> 1. Insert A and B in a list (freeze_me_first_list)
In that case, A should insert the dependency into the
freeze_me_first_list as B is unaware of the dependency yet.
What if by the time A has inserted the dependency B is already frozen?
Can very well happen right?
A: B: freezer
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*Check the list. don't find A/B
*Mark A freezeable.
*Mark B freezeable.
*try_to_freeze();
*insert A, B .
into the .
list. .
.
.
* wait_for_ .
completion(done); . /* Freezer fails at this
. * point
. */
.
.
*complete(done);
*try_to_freeze();
Example: A = a thread doing flush_workqueue.
B = worker thread.
Of course, we can always use the freezer_skip around this
wait_for_completion as well as long as the thread A is not marked
PF_NOFREEZE. But with multiple freeze events, it won't be as simple as
that.
> --
> Regards,
> vatsa
Thanks and Regards
gautham.
--
Gautham R Shenoy
Linux Technology Center
IBM India.
"Freedom comes with a price tag of responsibility, which is still a bargain,
because Freedom is priceless!"
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-12 10:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-02 5:34 [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] Enhance process freezer interface for usage beyond software suspend Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 13:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 20:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-06 14:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-06 22:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-07 9:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-07 9:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-09 3:04 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 7:59 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 9:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:59 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02 5:37 ` [PATCH 2/8] Make process freezer reentrant Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 9:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:38 ` [PATCH 3/8] Use process freezer for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 10:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 12:14 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 13:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 17:27 ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 17:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:47 ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 22:22 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-14 18:48 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 5:39 ` [PATCH 4/8] Rip out lock_cpu_hotplug() Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:40 ` [PATCH 5/8] __cpu_up: use singlethreaded workqueue Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 12:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02 5:41 ` [PATCH 6/8] Make non-singlethreaded workqueues freezeable by default Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-02 5:42 ` [PATCH 7/8] Clean up workqueue.c with respect to the freezer based cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 11:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 13:59 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 15:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 17:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 15:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04 17:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 12:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-12 2:22 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-12 10:01 ` Gautham R Shenoy [this message]
2007-04-12 16:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-13 9:46 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:42 ` [PATCH 8/8] Make kernel threads freezeable for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 6:16 ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 9:28 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 12:42 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 14:16 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 18:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03 12:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 14:15 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-04 3:15 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:41 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-04 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 12:24 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 13:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-03 12:01 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-03 20:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 10:06 ` utrace merge Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-04 18:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 14:01 ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy
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