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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Pedro <linux_user@izecksohn.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: tmpfs and the OOM killer
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:31:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070412203153.GJ943@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200704121135.32160.linux_user@izecksohn.com>

On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 11:35:32AM -0300, Pedro wrote:
> On Thursday 12 April 2007 08:25, Theodore Tso wrote:
> > likely going to be in deep trouble anyway.  Even if you disable the
> > OOM killer, now random malloc()'s will start returning NULL because
> > your system doesn't have enough memory.  Do you have intelligent error
> > handling and recovery mechanisms for every single malloc() failure?
> 
>   When malloc return NULL, the process may tell the user ENOMEM.
>   When OOM kill the process, the user claim the program sometimes die.

Then use overcommit=2. The default overcommit mode is a convenience provided
to allow poorly designed applications run even when they pretend they need
gigs of RAM when they only use a few tens of megs.

If your application correctly handles malloc(), simply switch overcommit
to 2 and let the system refuse to allocate memory when none is available,
then your application will be aware of this by the NULL result to malloc()
calls. It is a normal behaviour.

I do have appliances which run perfectly controlled software with
overcommit_mode=2 and overcommit_ratio around 70% and without any
swap, and they work like a charm. It just requires some finer grained
tuning on your side. I don't see what the problem is here. You know
the app, you know how much RAM you want to allocate to it, you know
how much you want to keep free. Then say this to the system.

BTW, ulimit -v is your friend here too, and does not require to be root.

Regards,
Willy


  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-12 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-11  5:23 tmpfs and the OOM killer Pedro
2007-04-11 19:48 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-11 21:05   ` Mouawad, Tony
2007-04-11 22:27   ` Pedro
2007-04-11 22:39     ` Alan Cox
2007-04-12  5:19       ` Pedro
2007-04-12  9:42         ` Alan Cox
2007-04-12 15:08           ` Pedro
2007-04-12 11:25         ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-12 14:35           ` Pedro
2007-04-12 20:31             ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2007-04-12 20:56               ` Mouawad, Tony
2007-04-12 21:09                 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-12  8:13   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-12  8:19     ` Willy Tarreau
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-12  5:04 Al Boldi
2007-04-12  5:39 ` Pedro

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