From: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
mingo@elte.hu, dipankar@in.ibm.com, dino@in.ibm.com,
masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] Clean up workqueue.c with respect to the freezer based cpu-hotplug
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:16:42 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070413094642.GA9992@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070412160004.GA4183@tv-sign.ru>
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:00:04PM +0400, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 04/12, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 10:48:20PM +0530, Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> > > > Actually, we should do this before destroy_workqueue() calls flush_workqueue().
> > > > Otherwise flush_cpu_workqueue() can hang forever in a similar manner.
> > >
> > > Yep. I guess these are a class of freezer deadlocks very similar to vfork
> > > parent waiting on child case. I get a feeling these should become common
> > > outside of kthread too (A waits on B for something, B gets frozen, which
> > > means A won't freeze causing freezer to fail). Can freezer detect this
> > > dependency somehow and thaw B automatically? Probably not that easy ..
> >
> > I wonder if there is some value in "enforcing" an order in which
> > processes get frozen i.e freeze A first before B. That may solve the
> > deadlocks we have been discussing wrt kthread_stop and flush_workqueue
> > as well.
>
> Perhaps we can add "atomic_t xxx" to task_struct.
>
> int freezing(struct task_struct *p)
> {
> return test_tsk_thread_flag(p, TIF_FREEZE)
> && atomic_read(&p->xxx) == 0;
> }
>
> void xxx_start(struct task_struct *p)
> {
> atomic_inc(p->xxx);
> thaw_process(p);
> }
>
> xxx_end(struct task_struct *p)
> {
> atomic_dec(p->xxx);
> }
>
> Now,
>
> xxx_start(p);
> ... wait for something which depends on p...
> xxx_end(p);
>
> Of course we need other changes, freeze_process() should check ->xxx, etc.
> I am not sure this makes sense.
I think this is racy.
Say, if the task which does xxx_start(p) [let's call it task q] is not freezeable, and task p is
already frozen when q calls xxx_start, then we might be in a situation
where
- Freezer has declared the whole system to be frozen. Hence the thread
issuing the 'freeze'(suspend/hotplug) can go ahead and do whatever it wants to.
- Task 'p' which was supposed to be frozen , is now running and
*surprise* We have a thread running on a cpu which ain't there any more!
I feel we need some kind of a global rwlock.
DEFINE_RWLOCK(freezer_status_lock);
int xxx_start(struct task_struct *p)
{
int ret = 0;
ret = read_trylock(&freezer_status_lock);
if(ret)
/* We've succeeded. So lets thaw the chap */
thaw_process(p);
/* If we've failed to acquire trylock, that means freezer doesn't
* depend on us.
* So lets simply wait without thawing p
*/
return ret;
}
void xxx_end(int state)
{
if(state)
read_unlock(&freezer_status_lock);
}
int try_to_freeze_tasks()
{
do {
/* The regular freezer code */
if (!todo && !write_trylock(&freezer_status_lock));
continue;
/* When the freezer goes back, it will find task 'p'
* woken up and hence wait for it to get frozen
*/
}while(todo);
}
void try_to_thaw_tasks()
{
.
.
.
write_unlock(&freezer_status_lock);
}
int state = xxx_start(p);
... wait for something which depends on p...
xxx_end(state);
However, now that I look at it again, I see that it will fail in our case
where we might need to nest the try_to_freeze_tasks call.
Hmm, we don't have a rwlock variant that allows multiple writers, now do
we?!
>
> Oleg.
>
Thanks and Regards
gautham.
--
Gautham R Shenoy
Linux Technology Center
IBM India.
"Freedom comes with a price tag of responsibility, which is still a bargain,
because Freedom is priceless!"
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-13 9:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-02 5:34 [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:37 ` [PATCH 1/8] Enhance process freezer interface for usage beyond software suspend Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 13:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 20:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-06 14:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-06 22:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-07 9:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-07 9:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-09 3:04 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 7:59 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 9:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:59 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02 5:37 ` [PATCH 2/8] Make process freezer reentrant Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 9:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 10:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:38 ` [PATCH 3/8] Use process freezer for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 10:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 12:14 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 13:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 17:27 ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 17:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:47 ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-06 22:22 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-04-14 18:48 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-02 5:39 ` [PATCH 4/8] Rip out lock_cpu_hotplug() Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 5:40 ` [PATCH 5/8] __cpu_up: use singlethreaded workqueue Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 12:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-02 5:41 ` [PATCH 6/8] Make non-singlethreaded workqueues freezeable by default Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-05 11:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-05 20:06 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-02 5:42 ` [PATCH 7/8] Clean up workqueue.c with respect to the freezer based cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 11:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 13:59 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 15:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-03 17:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 15:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04 17:49 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-05 12:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-12 2:22 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-12 10:01 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-12 16:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-13 9:46 ` Gautham R Shenoy [this message]
2007-04-02 5:42 ` [PATCH 8/8] Make kernel threads freezeable for cpu-hotplug Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 6:16 ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 9:28 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 11:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 12:42 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-02 14:16 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 18:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03 12:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-03 14:15 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-04 3:15 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-04 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:41 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-04 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 12:24 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-02 11:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-02 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-02 13:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-03 12:01 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-03 19:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-03 20:24 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-04 10:06 ` utrace merge Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 10:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-04 18:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 14:01 ` [RFC] Cpu-hotplug: Using the Process Freezer (try2) Gautham R Shenoy
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