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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Satoru Takeuchi <takeuchi_satoru@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm] scheduler: fix the return of the first time_slice
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:54:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070416115441.GA26177@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070416114701.GB84@tv-sign.ru>


* Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> wrote:

> > >  	 * The remainder of the first timeslice might be recovered by
> > >  	 * the parent if the child exits early enough.
> > >  	 */
> > > -	p->first_time_slice = 1;
> > > +	p->time_slice_reaper = current;
> > >  	p->timestamp = sched_clock();
> > >  	local_irq_enable();
> > 
> > I am afraid this doesn't work for CLONE_THREAD. Suppose that some 
> > sub-thread (not main thread) T1 creates another sub-thread, T2.

> In case I was not clear...

> To make this correct, we should iterate over all thread-group, but 
> this can slow down exit() when we have a lot of threads.
> 
> I guess we need Ingo's opinion on that.

right now my first cautious estimation seems to be that we might be able 
to get rid of this whole child/parent timeslice sharing complexity and 
do all the scheduling setup without affecting the parent - hence 
avoiding all the reaper problems as well. People reported interactivity 
improvements with this removed from CFS. (It all still needs a ton of 
validation to make sure, but the trend seems to be this.)

(the only valid component of that complexity is 'child runs first' - but 
it's not really related to the timesplice splitting thing just 
intermixed with it.)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-16 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-07  7:31 [BUG] scheduler: first timeslice of the exiting thread Satoru Takeuchi
2007-04-07  7:45 ` Satoru Takeuchi
2007-04-09  6:09 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-09  6:50   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-10  7:18     ` Satoru Takeuchi
2007-04-13 15:31   ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-16  2:16     ` [PATCH] scheduler: fix the return of the first time_slice Satoru Takeuchi
2007-04-16  4:36       ` [PATCH -mm] " Satoru Takeuchi
2007-04-16 10:45         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-16 11:47           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-16 11:54             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-04-16 11:58           ` Satoru Takeuchi

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