From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: "Tomasz Kłoczko" <kloczek@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@gmail.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
"David R. Litwin" <presently42@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ZFS with Linux: An Open Plea
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:30:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070416143012.GC10338@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSO.4.63.0704161419260.11088@rudy.mif.pg.gda.pl>
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 04:01:23PM +0200, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
>...
> Few days ago I'm swich two backup servers with few TB storage from Linux to
> Solaris .. only because client want use ZFS .. because ZFS is EXCELENT for
> this kind tasks (only because it allow save many thousands of
> <put_your_currency_name> because it allow better utilize the same storage)
> and trust me .. cases like this will be more .. much more and changing
> licensing Linux code will be MUCH more easier than reinventing wheel (wich
> will be reimplemnting ZFS under GPL).
This is a technical mailing list, so let's start with technical
arguments:
Why did this client want to use ZFS?
Because his boss was convinced by a marketing guy that ZFS was the best
invention since sliced bread?
Or due to technical limitations in what Linux currently offers
resulting in ZFS bringing him direct advantages on these servers?
If the latter, what exactly?
> Problem is not on technical area but on licensing and it is plain Linux
> word problem because neccessary in this case changes on CDDL side will make
> this code less oppended than now .. so you can (probably ?) forget about
> GPLing ZFS code (and ZFS it is not all what will good to have from Sol in
> Linux).
> IMO current Linux licensing less is importand than bringing in possible
> simpler way things like ZFS to Linux. So best/simpler way will be start
> change Linux licensing for save all GPL goodies and allow interract with
> code on license like CDDL.
>
> Licensing is for allow keep in best possible form Linux. If it can't do
> this in best possible way it must be change (must evolve .. like many othes
> things around).
There are at about 10.000 people who contributed to the Linux kernel,
some of them unreachable or even dead.
AFAIK the only way to relicense the Linux kernel that wouldn't be
legally questionable in any jurisdiction would be to get each one of
them to agree to the license change.
IOW, it's more or less practically impossible to relicense the kernel.
If the GPL is a problem for you, FreeBSD might be a good choice for you.
> kloczek
cu
Adrian
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-16 14:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-13 23:18 ZFS with Linux: An Open Plea David R. Litwin
2007-04-13 23:43 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-14 12:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-14 14:04 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-04-14 20:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-16 9:40 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 11:19 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-16 14:02 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-16 14:20 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 14:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-16 15:46 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 15:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-16 19:02 ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-16 20:18 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-18 17:25 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-18 17:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-27 5:21 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-27 21:57 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-16 19:46 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-16 18:19 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-16 19:21 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-16 19:26 ` Lee Revell
2007-04-16 20:20 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-04-16 20:15 ` Stefan Richter
2007-04-14 21:13 ` Bill Huey
2007-04-16 9:58 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
[not found] ` <170fa0d20704160507w4af4cb92ua259a55789f95c3e@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-16 14:01 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 14:30 ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2007-04-16 15:27 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-16 17:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-04-14 18:56 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-16 3:00 ` David Chinner
2007-04-15 4:16 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-15 21:58 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-05-02 15:03 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-05-02 15:42 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-02 20:53 ` Theodore Tso
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-14 17:40 Ignatich
2007-04-15 12:44 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-17 14:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-15 8:54 David R. Litwin
2007-04-16 0:50 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-16 3:07 ` David Chinner
2007-04-15 8:57 David R. Litwin
2007-04-15 17:34 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-17 6:54 David R. Litwin
2007-04-17 8:18 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 13:10 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-17 13:47 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 13:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-04-17 15:46 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 15:59 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-17 16:29 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 19:58 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 22:19 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 22:12 ` David Lang
2007-04-17 22:52 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 22:38 ` Roland Dreier
2007-04-17 14:06 ` Erik Mouw
2007-04-17 14:32 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-17 15:41 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2007-04-17 16:02 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-17 14:37 ` Diego Calleja
2007-04-17 14:48 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-17 15:06 ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 15:23 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-04-17 15:30 ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 15:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-17 16:02 ` Mike Snitzer
2007-04-17 16:57 ` Alistair John Strachan
2007-04-18 11:10 ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-18 11:23 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-18 11:32 ` Manoj Joseph
2007-04-17 16:22 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-04-17 17:50 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-17 19:24 ` Florian Weimer
2007-04-17 19:56 ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 20:05 ` Ricardo Correia
2007-04-17 14:59 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-04-17 15:08 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-04-17 15:12 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-04-17 15:29 ` Michal Schmidt
2007-04-17 8:42 David R. Litwin
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