From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: ego@in.ibm.com
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, vatsa@in.ibm.com,
paulmck@us.ibm.com, pavel@ucw.cz
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH(experimental) 2/2] Fix freezer-kthread_stop race
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:50:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704201450.06487.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070420122609.GA22325@in.ibm.com>
On Friday, 20 April 2007 14:26, Gautham R Shenoy wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 01:59:29PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I thought about it for a while. The thread that is going to stop
> > another one may temporarily mark itself as freezable in all cases, which
> > will have no effect on it, since it's not going to cally try_to_freeze(), but
> > will make the freezer wait for it. Next, after returning from
> > wait_for_completion(), it should restore its old freezability status and that
> > should make the freezer finish.
>
> But that will have no affect if the thread to be stopped is already
> frozen. The only affect might be that now, freezer will fail whether
> the thread that is going to stop another one was freezeable or not.
>
> Concern is whether we can somehow complete these wait_for_completion()'s in
> the freezing context and reduce the probabilty of freezer failing.
To be precise, I was thinking about something like this (in pseudo-code):
kthread_stop_info.k = k;
save_freezable_status(current);
set_always_freezable(current);
/* Now, we know that the freezer will wait for us, although we're not
* really going to freeze
*/
task_lock(k);
k->flags |= PF_NOFREEZE;
if (frozen(k))
k->flags &= ~PF_FROZEN;
task_unlock(k);
wake_up_process(k);
put_task_struct(k);
/* Once it dies, reset stop ptr, gather result and we're done. */
wait_for_completion(&kthread_stop_info.done);
restore_freezable_status(current);
> > > However, I was attempting to solve the generic problem where
> > > A waits on B and B is frozen. If A is freezeable (under one of the
> > > events) then the freezer will fail. So a solution would be for A to
> > > somehow inform B of the dependency and postpone it's freezing.
> >
> > Well, I think it might be simpler to consider each case separately. This way
> > we may be able to avoid introducing the additional TIF_ flag.
> >
>
> Makes sense.
>
> > > Since akpm mentioned that flush_workqueue() needs to go, I guess, I am
> > > ok with fixing only kthread_stop/kthread_should_stop for the moment.
> > > Unless I can spot any other valid case :)
> >
> > Sure. :-)
> >
> > BTW, if it turns out that we need to introduce yet another freezer-related
> > TIF_ flag, it may be acceptable (?) to move all of the freezer-related flags
> > into a separate member of task_struct (eg. freezer_flags) that can only be
> > manipulated under task_lock().
> >
> > I mean, we already have four of them (PF_NOFREEZE, PF_FROZEN,
> > PF_FREEZER_SKIP, TIF_FREEZE), and you will need to introduce two more for
> > the freezer-based CPU hotplug, so if yet another one is needed, that will make
> > up almost a separate u8 field ...
>
> I am perfectly ok with it. But I am not sure if everybody would agree to have
> another field in the task struct, though in this case it does make sense :-)
Well, I'm not sure either, but I guess the most practical way to learn it is to
send a patch. ;-)
Greetings,
Rafael
--
If you don't have the time to read,
you don't have the time or the tools to write.
- Stephen King
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-20 12:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-19 12:01 [RFC 0/2] Fix Freezer related races Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-19 12:02 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Fix PF_NOFREEZE and freezeable race Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-19 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-20 18:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 10:26 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-23 17:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <200704260044.03975.rjw@sisk.pl>
[not found] ` <20070425231638.GH15134@in.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20070425163409.4f8476c4.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
[not found] ` <20070426060608.GA12892@in.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20070425231232.302a83f0.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-04-26 13:11 ` [PATCH -mm] Move frozen_process() to kernel/power/process.c Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-26 12:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-26 13:40 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-19 12:04 ` [RFC PATCH(experimental) 2/2] Fix freezer-kthread_stop race Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-19 21:31 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 8:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-20 11:05 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-20 11:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-20 12:26 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-20 12:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-04-20 17:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 18:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-20 21:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-22 19:28 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/3] Separate freezer flags Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-22 19:33 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/3] Separate freezer from PM code Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 10:41 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-22 19:39 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/3] freezer: Introduce freezer_flags Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-22 21:14 ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-22 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-22 22:31 ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-23 3:18 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-04-23 4:09 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-04-23 14:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-23 18:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 19:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 10:50 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-23 13:17 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-23 19:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 22:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 22:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 22:41 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-23 22:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 22:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 23:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 23:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-24 11:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-22 19:40 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/3] freezer: Fix problem with kthread_stop Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 10:40 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-23 19:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 12:35 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-23 19:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 20:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 19:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-23 20:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 21:16 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-23 21:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-20 21:20 ` [RFC PATCH(experimental) 2/2] Fix freezer-kthread_stop race Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-20 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-20 10:46 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-21 9:37 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-20 21:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 10:38 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-04-23 18:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-23 20:34 ` Gautham R Shenoy
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