From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752319AbXDVAKO (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:10:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752841AbXDVAKO (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:10:14 -0400 Received: from mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au ([211.29.132.190]:47979 "EHLO mail09.syd.optusnet.com.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752319AbXDVAKM (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:10:12 -0400 From: Con Kolivas To: Denis Vlasenko Subject: Re: [REPORT] cfs-v4 vs sd-0.44 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 10:08:49 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Cc: Ingo Molnar , Willy Tarreau , William Lee Irwin III , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Nick Piggin , Mike Galbraith , Arjan van de Ven , Peter Williams , Thomas Gleixner , caglar@pardus.org.tr, Gene Heskett References: <20070420140457.GA14017@elte.hu> <20070421160008.GA28783@elte.hu> <200704220054.58639.vda.linux@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <200704220054.58639.vda.linux@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200704221008.50367.kernel@kolivas.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sunday 22 April 2007 08:54, Denis Vlasenko wrote: > On Saturday 21 April 2007 18:00, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > correct. Note that Willy reniced X back to 0 so it had no relevance on > > his test. Also note that i pointed this change out in the -v4 CFS > > > > announcement: > > || Changes since -v3: > > || > > || - usability fix: automatic renicing of kernel threads such as > > || keventd, OOM tasks and tasks doing privileged hardware access > > || (such as Xorg). > > > > i've attached it below in a standalone form, feel free to put it into > > SD! :) > > But X problems have nothing to do with "privileged hardware access". > X problems are related to priority inversions between server and client > processes, and "one server process - many client processes" case. It's not a privileged hardware access reason that this code is there. This is obfuscation/advertising to make it look like there is a valid reason for X getting negative nice levels somehow in the kernel to make interactive testing of CFS better by default. -- -ck