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From: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: ck@vds.kolivas.org
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Ed Tomlinson <edt@aei.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ck] Re: Ten percent test
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:48:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704221248.30758.Martin@lichtvoll.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1176137433.6109.59.camel@Homer.simpson.net>

Am Montag 09 April 2007 schrieb Mike Galbraith:
> On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 07:26 -0400, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
> > On Monday 09 April 2007 01:38, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 09:08 -0400, Ed Tomlinson wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am one of those who have been happily testing Con's patches.
> > > >
> > > > They work better than mainline here.
> > >
> > > (I tried a UP kernel yesterday, and even a single kernel build
> > > would make noticeable hitches if I move a window around. YMMV etc.)
> >
> > Interesting.  I run UP amd64, 1000HZ, 1.25G, preempt off (on causes
> > kernel stalls with no messages - but that is another story).  I do
> > not notice a single make.   When several are running the desktop
> > slows down a bit.  I do not have X niced.  Wonder why we see such
> > different results?
>
> Probably because with your processor, in general cc1 can get the job
> done faster, as can X.  The latency big hit happens when you hit the
> end of the rotation.  You simply don't hit it as often as I do.  Anyone
> with an old PIII box should hit the wall very quickly indeed.  I
> haven't had time to try it here.

Hi!

I am running 2.6.20.7 + sd-0.44 on an IBM ThinkPad T23 that I use as my 
Amarok machine[1]. It  has a Pentium 3 with 1.13 GHz using ondemand 
frequency scaling and XFS as filesystem.

So far music playback has been perfect even when I had it building kernel 
packages while wildly clicking around starting apps and then moving the 
Amarok window like mad while solid window moving is enabled. Amarok / 
xine continued to play the music totally unimpressed of that.

So for me from a users point of view who wants good music playback *no 
matter what*, this is already perfect. Also the desktop feels quite 
snappy to me. It was only slow on anything I/O bound but thats 
understandable IMHO when make-kpkg tar -bzips the kernel source while 20 
KDE applications are starting and Amarok plays music.

Should I try any specific tests? This also goes out to anybody else, 
especially to you, Con.  So if you want me to run some benchmarks, please 
tell me. I am not experienced in benchmarking, but if you tell me what to 
do, I can try it out. I prefer benchmarks that do not disrupt music 
playback, but can run more aggressive benchmarks over night. I think it 
might be good to use a benchmark that isn't I/O bound to really test the 
scheduler... but as said I am no expert on that and real life loads 
usually are I/O bound as well.

Have to have an carefully eye on the harddisk though...

Apr 22 11:51:06 deepdance smartd[3116]: Device: /dev/sda, SMART Prefailure 
Attribute: 3 Spin_Up_Time changed from 154 to 150

(well threshold is at 033, so still plenty to go, hope it will take some 
time till the next change)

[1] http://martin-steigerwald.de/amarok-machine/ ;)

Regards,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA  B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-22 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-28 16:37 [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Con Kolivas
2007-03-28 17:34 ` [ck] " Prakash Punnoor
2007-04-01  6:40   ` Prakash Punnoor
     [not found]     ` <b14e81f00704010724i3155a16en91074ab789416f3d@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-01 20:03       ` Prakash Punnoor
2007-03-28 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-28 23:44   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-29  5:50     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  6:29       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  6:54         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  8:18       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 12:55         ` [ck] " michael chang
2007-04-03  2:35         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03  2:37       ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03  5:31         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03  6:00           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03  6:01           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03  6:11             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:02             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:09               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 11:12                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:15                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 13:18                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-04-05 15:28                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:54               ` [test] sched: SD-latest versus Mike's latest Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:10                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 12:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:24                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 16:08                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-05 19:05                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 20:29                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06  1:03                 ` Ten percent test Con Kolivas
2007-04-06  9:07                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06  9:28                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-06 10:03                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 10:40                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07  6:50                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-07 16:12                           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:08                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 18:23                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:52                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 20:30                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 10:41                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 10:58                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 17:04                                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  4:03                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  4:08                                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  5:59                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:01                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:33                                       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:40                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 12:02                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:57                                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  4:19                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  5:23                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  6:09                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:56                                           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  4:17                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  5:16                                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  6:06                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  8:24                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 18:51                                       ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09  4:23                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 12:14                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 13:27                                             ` Andreas Mohr
2007-04-09 19:54                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 14:15                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 17:05                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 17:48                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 19:09                                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 19:56                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:10                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:53                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 15:37                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-04-07 19:14                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07 20:31                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:51                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-09 18:03                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 18:44                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-07 16:32                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 13:08                           ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09  5:38                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 11:26                               ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09 16:50                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-22 10:48                                   ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2007-04-22 11:15                                     ` [ck] " Con Kolivas
2007-04-10  2:39                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-10 11:23                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-10 12:04                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 10:48                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 10:57           ` [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  6:36 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-23  8:58 ` Andrew Morton

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