From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Eric Hopper <hopper@omnifarious.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Question about Reiser4
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:19:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070424001934.GC1663@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462D46DF.4090802@zytor.com>
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 04:53:03PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Theodore Tso wrote:
> >
> >One of the big problems of using a filesystem as a DB is the system
> >call overheads. If you use huge numbers of tiny files, then each
> >attempt read an atom of information from the DB takes three system
> >calls --- an open(), read(), and close(), with all of the overheads in
> >terms of dentry and inode cache.
> >
>
> Now, to be fair, there are probably a number of cases where
> open/lseek/readv/close and open/lseek/writev/close would be worth doing
> as a single system call. The big problem as far as I can see involves
> EINTR handling; such a system call has serious restartability implications.
Sure, but Hans wants to change /etc/inetd.conf into /etc/inetd.conf.d,
where you have: /etc/inetd.conf.d/telnet/port,
/etc/inetd.conf.d/telnet/protocol, /etc/inetd.conf.d/telnet/wait,
/etc/inetd.conf.d/telnet/userid, /etc/inetd.conf.d/telnet/daemon,
etc. for each individual line in /etc/inetd.conf. (And where each
file might only contains 2-4 characters each: i.e., "23", "tcp",
"root", etc.)
So it's not enough just to collapse open/pread/close into a single
system call; in order to gain back the performance squandered by all
of these itsy-bitsy tiny little files. You want to collapse the
open/pread/close for many of these little files into a single system
call, hence Hans's insistence on sys_reiser4(); otherwise his scheme
doesn't work all that well at all.
- Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-24 0:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-23 2:00 Question about Reiser4 Eric Hopper
2007-04-23 2:31 ` Lee Revell
2007-04-23 3:56 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 3:56 ` William Heimbigner
2007-04-23 5:47 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 5:57 ` William Heimbigner
2007-04-23 6:07 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 6:14 ` William Heimbigner
2007-04-23 6:20 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 6:42 ` William Heimbigner
2007-04-23 8:04 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-23 11:31 ` l.genoni
2007-04-23 13:52 ` Eric Hopper
2007-04-23 17:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-23 18:36 ` Miguel Ojeda
2007-04-23 19:05 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-23 22:56 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-23 23:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-24 0:14 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-24 0:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-24 13:30 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-24 0:19 ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2007-04-24 0:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-24 1:17 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-24 11:15 ` Denis Vlasenko
2007-04-25 6:39 ` Eric M. Hopper
2007-04-25 14:45 ` lkml777
2007-04-23 6:14 ` Jeff Chua
[not found] <20070423111939.c876c9cc.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-04-24 14:43 ` Edward Shishkin
2007-04-24 19:39 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-25 14:35 ` Edward Shishkin
2007-04-25 14:49 ` Jeff Chua
2007-04-25 15:06 ` lkml777
2007-04-25 15:50 ` Jeff Chua
2007-04-26 5:05 ` lkml777
2007-04-26 6:49 ` Jeff Chua
2007-04-26 5:09 ` lkml777
2007-04-26 6:48 ` Jeff Chua
2007-04-26 8:18 ` Jeff Chua
2007-04-27 7:16 ` lkml777
2007-04-26 0:44 ` lkml777
2007-04-25 0:12 ` lkml777
2007-04-25 6:26 ` Eric M. Hopper
2007-04-25 15:03 ` Edward Shishkin
2007-04-26 7:47 ` lkml777
2007-04-26 7:54 ` lkml777
2007-05-02 2:39 ` lkml777
2007-05-02 4:53 ` lkml777
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