From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756257AbXD2HSK (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:18:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756258AbXD2HSJ (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:18:09 -0400 Received: from 1wt.eu ([62.212.114.60]:2346 "EHLO 1wt.eu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756243AbXD2HSG (ORCPT ); Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:18:06 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:16:27 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Ingo Molnar Cc: Kasper Sandberg , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Gene Heskett , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas , Nick Piggin , Mike Galbraith , Arjan van de Ven , Peter Williams , Thomas Gleixner , caglar@pardus.org.tr, Mark Lord , Zach Carter , buddabrod Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v6 Message-ID: <20070429071627.GC23638@1wt.eu> References: <20070425214704.GA32572@elte.hu> <1177596399.14496.1.camel@localhost> <200704261041.04838.gene.heskett@gmail.com> <1177618164.14496.5.camel@localhost> <20070427115344.GA30706@elte.hu> <20070427115526.GA7699@elte.hu> <1177774551.21279.8.camel@localhost> <1177809512.9756.10.camel@localhost> <20070429053022.GB23638@1wt.eu> <20070429065900.GB32281@elte.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070429065900.GB32281@elte.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 08:59:01AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Willy Tarreau wrote: > > > I don't know if Mike still has problems with SD, but there are now > > several interesting reports of SD giving better feedback than CFS on > > real work. In my experience, CFS seems smoother on *technical* tests, > > which I agree that they do not really simulate real work. > > well, there are several reports of CFS being significantly better than > SD on a number of workloads - and i know of only two reports where SD > was reported to be better than CFS: in Kasper's test (where i'd like to > know what the "3D stuff" he uses is and take a good look at that > workload), and another 3D report which was done against -v6. (And even > in these two reports the 'smoothness advantage' was not dramatic. If you > know of any other reports then please let me know!) There was Caglar Onur too but he said he will redo all the tests. I'm not tracking all tests nor versions, so it might be possible that some of the differences vanish with v7. In fact, what I'd like to see in 2.6.22 is something better for everybody and with *no* regression, even if it's not perfect. I had the feeling that SD matched that goal right now, except for Mike who has not tested recent versions. Don't get me wrong, I still think that CFS is a more interesting long-term target. But it may require more time to satisfy everyone. At least with one of them in 2.6.22, we won't waste time comparing to current mainline. > Ingo Willy