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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Kasper Sandberg <lkml@metanurb.dk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	caglar@pardus.org.tr, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
	Zach Carter <linux@zachcarter.com>,
	buddabrod <buddabrod@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v6
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:13:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070429081317.GG23638@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070429075436.GZ31925@holomorphy.com>

On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 12:54:36AM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 09:16:27AM +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > In fact, what I'd like to see in 2.6.22 is something better for everybody
> > and with *no* regression, even if it's not perfect. I had the feeling
> > that SD matched that goal right now, except for Mike who has not tested
> > recent versions. Don't get me wrong, I still think that CFS is a more
> > interesting long-term target. But it may require more time to satisfy
> > everyone. At least with one of them in 2.6.22, we won't waste time
> > comparing to current mainline.
> 
> I think it'd be a good idea to merge scheduler classes before changing
> over the policy so future changes to policy have smaller code impact.
> Basically, get scheduler classes going with the mainline scheduler.
> 
> There are other pieces that can be merged earlier, too, for instance,
> the correction to the comment in init/main.c. Directed yields can
> probably also go in as nops or -ENOSYS returns if not fully implemented,
> though I suspect there shouldn't be much in the way of implementing them.
> p->array vs. p->on_rq can be merged early too.

I agree that merging some framework is a good way to proceed.

> Common code for rbtree-based priority queues can be factored out of
> cfq, cfs, and hrtimers.

In my experience, rbtrees are painfully slow. Yesterday, I spent the
day replacing them in haproxy with other trees I developped a few
years ago, which look like radix trees. They are about 2-3 times as
fast to insert 64-bit data, and you walk through them in O(1). I have
many changes to apply to them before they could be used in kernel, but
at least I think we already have code available for other types of trees.

> There are extensive /proc/ reporting changes, large chunks of which
> could go in before the policy as well.
> 
> I'm camping in this weekend, so I'll see what I can eke out.

good luck !

Willy


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-29  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-25 21:47 [patch] CFS scheduler, -v6 Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26  2:14 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-26  3:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-26  3:49   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-26  4:16   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-26  8:27   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26  9:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26 14:06 ` Redeeman
2007-04-26 14:41   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-26 20:09     ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-26 21:21       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-27  4:02       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27  6:01         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 11:53       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 11:55         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 13:39           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-27 13:41             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 13:44             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-28 15:35           ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-28 20:45             ` Lee Revell
2007-04-29  1:18             ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29  5:30               ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29  6:45                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-29  6:59                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29  7:16                   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29  7:30                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29  7:38                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29  8:00                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29  8:02                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29  9:52                           ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-29 10:19                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-29  7:54                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29  8:03                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29  8:16                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29  8:13                       ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2007-04-29  8:58                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29  8:11                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-29 10:30                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 10:33                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29 10:48                       ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29 11:25                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 10:53                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-29 11:11                         ` Bill Huey
2007-04-29 11:50                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 11:11                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 11:46                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-29 12:09                           ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2007-04-29 15:39                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-29 11:59                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 12:25                           ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 12:00                         ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29 12:13                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 12:21                             ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29 12:55                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29 13:37                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-01  7:55                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 13:00                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29 20:30                         ` Mark Lord
2007-04-29 15:28                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-29  7:59                   ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29  8:05                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29 15:42                     ` Ray Lee
2007-04-29 17:09                       ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29  6:47               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]               ` <20070429170908.GA31417@elte.hu>
     [not found]                 ` <20070429173902.GA4349@elte.hu>
2007-04-30 17:45                   ` 3d smoothness (was: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v6) Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-30 20:17                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-30 20:44                       ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-27 12:52         ` [patch] CFS scheduler, -v6 William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-27 13:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 21:16           ` Lee Revell
2007-04-26 22:48     ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-27  0:39       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-27  0:57         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-27  1:03           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-27 20:54           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-26 16:05   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-26 19:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-26 19:35   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26 19:42     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-26 20:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 13:19 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-27 13:22   ` Mark Lord
2007-04-27 13:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 12:45 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-28 13:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 15:23     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-28 15:22       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 15:28       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-27 21:59 Art Haas

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