From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Kasper Sandberg <lkml@metanurb.dk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
caglar@pardus.org.tr, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
Zach Carter <linux@zachcarter.com>,
buddabrod <buddabrod@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v6
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 14:25:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070429122551.GI23638@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1177847954.5791.98.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 01:59:13PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 13:11 +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > > As a sidenote: I really wonder if anybody noticed yet, that the whole
> > > CFS / SD comparison is so ridiculous, that it is not even funny anymore.
> >
> > Contrarily to most people, I don't see them as competitors. I see SD as
> > a first step with a low risk of regression, and CFS as an ultimate
> > solution relying on a more solid framework.
>
> That's the whole reason why I don't see any usefulness in merging SD
> now. When we merge SD now, then we need to care of both - the real
> solution and the fixup of regressions. Right now we have a not perfect
> scheduler with known weak points. Ripping it out and replacing it is
> going to introduce regressions, what ever low risk you see.
Of course, but that's also the purpose of -rc. And given its small
footprint, it will be as easy to revert it as to apply it, should any
big problem appear.
> And I still do not see a benefit of an intermediate step with a in my
> opinion medium to high risk of regressions, instead of going the full
> way, when we agree that this is the correct solution.
The only difference is the time to get it in the right shape. If it
requires 3 versions (6 months), it may be worth "upgrading" the current
scheduler to make users happy. I'm not kidding, I've switched the default
boot to 2.6 on my notebook after trying SD and CFS. It was the first time
I got my system in 2.6 at least as usable as in 2.4. And I know I'm not
the only one.
Willy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-29 12:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-25 21:47 [patch] CFS scheduler, -v6 Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26 2:14 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-26 3:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-26 3:49 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-26 4:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-26 8:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26 9:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26 14:06 ` Redeeman
2007-04-26 14:41 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-26 20:09 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-26 21:21 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-27 4:02 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 6:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-27 11:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 11:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 13:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-27 13:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 13:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-28 15:35 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-28 20:45 ` Lee Revell
2007-04-29 1:18 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29 5:30 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 6:45 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-29 6:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29 7:16 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 7:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29 7:38 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 8:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29 8:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 9:52 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-29 10:19 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-29 7:54 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29 8:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29 8:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29 8:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 8:58 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29 8:11 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-29 10:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 10:33 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29 10:48 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29 11:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 10:53 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-29 11:11 ` Bill Huey
2007-04-29 11:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 11:11 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-04-29 11:46 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-29 12:09 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2007-04-29 15:39 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-29 11:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 12:25 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2007-04-29 12:00 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29 12:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-29 12:21 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29 12:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29 13:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-05-01 7:55 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 13:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-29 20:30 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-29 15:28 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-29 7:59 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29 8:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-29 15:42 ` Ray Lee
2007-04-29 17:09 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-29 6:47 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070429170908.GA31417@elte.hu>
[not found] ` <20070429173902.GA4349@elte.hu>
2007-04-30 17:45 ` 3d smoothness (was: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v6) Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-30 20:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-30 20:44 ` Kasper Sandberg
2007-04-27 12:52 ` [patch] CFS scheduler, -v6 William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-27 13:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 21:16 ` Lee Revell
2007-04-26 22:48 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-27 0:39 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-27 0:57 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-27 1:03 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-27 20:54 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-26 16:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-26 19:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-26 19:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-26 19:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-26 20:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-27 13:19 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-27 13:22 ` Mark Lord
2007-04-27 13:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 12:45 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-28 13:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 15:23 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-04-28 15:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-28 15:28 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
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2007-04-27 21:59 Art Haas
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