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From: "Uwe Bugla" <uwe.bugla@gmx.de>
To: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mchehab@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:50:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070430115000.194060@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4635D139.4030609@aitel.hist.no>


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:21:29 +0200
Von: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
An: Uwe Bugla <uwe.bugla@gmx.de>
CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and	pseudo-authorities

> Uwe Bugla wrote:
> > In this ten Emails you will yourself see the intellectual and technical
> proof in how far Mr. Chehab is acting with nothing else but:
> >
> > a. Lies
> > b. Unproven thesis
> > c. Stigmatizations
> >
> > and so on.
> >
> > THIS MAN HAS NO IDEA, BUT HE HAS THE POWER!
> >   
> Please note that there are ways to replace a bad maintainer. 
> We still try to keep it polite.
> 
> But note that you can't have someone "fired", no matter how bad they
> do their job.  A bad maintainer is usually better than none - the bad
> maintainer might improve. Or at least get some simple stuff done.
> 
> You therefore replace a bad maintainer by taking over the position. 
> Contact whoever is above the maintainer (Linus or some other
> higher-level maintainer). You explain the problem, and you must also
> show that you have the time and knowledge to do a better job. 

Hi Helge,
A. I do neither have enough skills to take up a maintainers role
B. Linus and Andrew are high-leveled informed about the whole structural problem, but they close their eyes, they simply do not want to see the necessity of a replacement.
That is at least my impression. 

> You can, for example, maintain the same subsystem in parallel.  After a 
> while,
> all interested parties sees that your tree works better and that
> communicating with you is easier.
> If you aren't prepared to do this - then you have to live with the current
> maintainer.  There is no staff ready to replace maintainers after
> complaints, a volunteer doing a better job is always necessary.

Neither nor: I do not livbe with persons like Chehab and others, no matter what the consequence is. To be truthful I would strategically prefare a vacuum at the price that the work isn't even done for months.
ONLY IF there is a personnel vacuum the necessity for others to volunteer will arise.

So if you want a real change you gotta first kick the reactionary dumb bastards off from their seats without any return ticket - without that there won't be any changes at all!

But the practice now is the typical "Sit out and do not react at all" behaviour as far as Chehab himself is concerned - Germans remember that reactionary gesture from the time when Hellmut Kohl was chancellor for 16 horrible years.....

So there will be no "soft" or "polite" solution at all, but only a harsh and rude one:
"Kick out the Jams!"

> 
> Helge Hafting
> 
> 
Cheers
Uwe

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-30 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-29 18:22 Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities Uwe Bugla
2007-04-29 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 20:59   ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-29 21:19     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-29 23:00       ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30  0:58         ` [linux-dvb] " hermann pitton
2007-04-30 11:02           ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 11:21             ` Helge Hafting
2007-04-30 11:50               ` Uwe Bugla [this message]
2007-04-30 15:04                 ` Helge Hafting
2007-04-30 15:24                   ` Markus Rechberger
2007-04-30 16:09                   ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 16:56                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-04-30 17:25                     ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 18:04                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-30 18:07                         ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 18:14                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-30 18:29                         ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 18:29                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-30 19:42                         ` Markus Rechberger
2007-04-30 11:35             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-04-30 11:48             ` Markus Rechberger
2007-04-30 12:37               ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 13:06                 ` Markus Rechberger
2007-04-30 14:09                   ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 15:30                     ` Michael Krufky
2007-04-30 16:39                       ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 14:49                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-30 15:19                   ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 15:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-30 22:41                       ` Trent Piepho
2007-04-30 22:58                         ` Manu Abraham
2007-04-30 23:08                           ` Markus Rechberger
2007-04-30 23:40                           ` Uwe Bugla
2007-05-01  0:19                             ` Manu Abraham
2007-05-01  0:29                               ` Markus Rechberger
2007-05-01  9:23                               ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 23:05                         ` Uwe Bugla
2007-04-30 23:20                           ` hermann pitton
2007-04-30  1:37   ` Trent Piepho
2007-04-30 10:47     ` Uwe Bugla

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