From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1946560AbXD3RZ4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:25:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1946559AbXD3RZz (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:25:55 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:33512 "HELO mail.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1946552AbXD3RZs (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:25:48 -0400 Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-dvb@linuxtv.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:25:47 +0200 From: "Uwe Bugla" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070430172547.204810@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20070429182209.267430@gmx.net> <20070429205925.129920@gmx.net> <20070429230037.95120@gmx.net> <1177894713.3046.5.camel@pc06.localdom.local> <20070430110255.267000@gmx.net> <4635D139.4030609@aitel.hist.no> <20070430115000.194060@gmx.net> <4636058B.3070603@aitel.hist.no> Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab , helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no X-Authenticated: #8359428 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19WhT07dkdWaZVCphuB+28RqqbLoOBsTdR5P8L8FG RqoLLeQd8J7C2/1Grzk5yDz+53TRpoO60oVg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: qRADd3Q4bUk7EjK9TWgnK0BsZ2hlNwp0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:56:17 +0100 (BST) Von: Mauro Carvalho Chehab An: Helge Hafting CC: Uwe Bugla , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org Betreff: Re: [linux-dvb] Re: Critical points about kernel 2.6.21 and pseudo-authorities > Hi Helge and others, > > On Mon, 30 Apr 2007, Helge Hafting wrote: > > >> what the consequence is. To be truthful I would strategically prefare a > >> vacuum at the price that the work isn't even done for months. > >> ONLY IF there is a personnel vacuum the necessity for others to > volunteer > >> will arise. > >> > > A sufficiently bad maintainer will also do it. If lots of submitters > send > > their patches to andrew in order to get past a dysfunctional maintainer, > > then the subsystem effectively is unmaintained. > > The point is that Uwe patch will generate regressions by breaking for > Twinhan. His patch just removes compilation for dst and dst_ca on Kconfig, > without taking care or driver internals. So, two initialization functions > won't be called by symbol_request(). Although those two functions will be > undefined, as the dvb will do the linkedition at module runtume (if > DVB_ATTACH is selected), modprobe won't detect the lack of those > functions. > At the end, cards with ST chips (DST and/or DST CA) will stop working, > without even printing a warning. Mister Chehab, for the first and for the utmost last time now: My deselection patch implies a very good text to strongly discourage the use of DST and DST_CA in case someone does not know what he or she is doing. In so far the case that "cards with ST chips (DST and/ or DST CA) will stop working" will not happen at all. This patch IS NOT DONE TO MAKE ANY DST OR DST_CA MODULE REQUIRING CARD WORK - THIS IS YOUR PART OF SO-CALLED LOGIC!!!! THIS PATCH IS DONE TO AVOID RAM WASTE FOR CASES IN WHICH IT IS PROVEN THAT DST AND DST_CA ARE NOT NEEDED AT ALL!!!! Example: Pinnacle PCTV SAT!!! And once again and for the last time: I did not manage to at least find one single unresolved module during compilation, and I have been working with this almost fantastic solution with several kernels for months now! Above that I gave you every proof one can ever give: You received dmesg, you received configs, you received proven thesis, you received everything. It would really be a perfect solution to bomb away the almost incredible meters thick wall in front of your head and your eyes. And at this time I will stop responding to your mails - I got enough of you!!! It's enough!! > > I've tried to explain this to Uwe several times, but, at the end, he > always start insulting me and/or other developers. > > Cheers, > Mauro. Happy reflection, Mister Chehab!!!!! -- "Feel free" - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail