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From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: "Olaf Hering" <olh@suse.de>, "Kristian Høgsberg" <krh@redhat.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux1394-devel <linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [git pull] New firewire stack
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 09:56:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705020956.59804.gene.heskett@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4638888B.4080908@s5r6.in-berlin.de>

On Wednesday 02 May 2007, Stefan Richter wrote:
>Olaf Hering wrote:
>> On Tue, May 01, Kristian Høgsberg wrote:
>>>   drivers/firewire/Kconfig          |   60 ++
>>
>> NACK.
>> Upgrade the current drivers/ieee1394/ with the new code,
>
>Last time I believe I was the only one who asked whether to put it into
>drivers/ieee1394 instead of another directory.  Of course I acknowledge
>that everytime a new review round is started, people do reconsider.
>Especially since we had a gap of a few months since the last LKML review.
>
>> and keep all existing module names.
>
>I'm impartial to that.  Using same names might ease the transition from
>the userspace side, as far as there is userland which relies on module
>names.
>
>A certain drawback of same names would be that geeks cannot install both
>stacks at once during the transition period.  Therefore, checking
>whether eventual problems are in fact regressions involves a module
>unload/ configure/ build/ install/ reload cycle, instead of just module
>unload/ reload.  This especially means we can only get help from testers
>who are able to build kernels.
>
>Other opinions?

I can and do build my own kernels so that's not a problem for me.  I also have 
a firewire movie camera that went through absolute hell the last time a 
firewire upgrade came by, and it was over 5 months before I had a working 
kino install again.  So I'd vote unconditionally to have 2 trees to select 
from at module load time until the shakeout has produced usable code in the 
2nd tree.

>From me, its a definite ACK.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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It's off to work I go...

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-02 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-01 20:27 [git pull] New firewire stack Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-01 21:34 ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-02  9:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-02 12:13   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 12:15     ` [PATCH 1/6] firewire: handling of cards, buses, nodes Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 12:16       ` [PATCH 2/6] firewire: isochronous and asynchronous I/O Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 12:17         ` [PATCH 3/6] firewire: char device interface Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 12:18           ` [PATCH 4/6] firewire: OHCI-1394 lowlevel driver Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 12:18             ` [PATCH 5/6] firewire: SBP-2 highlevel driver Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 12:19               ` [PATCH 6/6] firewire: add it all to kbuild Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 18:05                 ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 19:44                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-02 23:01                   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-03  4:15                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-03  8:10                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-08  0:14                       ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 19:44               ` [PATCH 5/6] firewire: SBP-2 highlevel driver Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-02 21:53                 ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 22:10                   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-04  9:53                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-04 11:20                     ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09 21:05                 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-09 21:48                   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09 21:57                   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09 22:13                     ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-09 22:56                       ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-04 11:11             ` [PATCH 4/6] firewire: OHCI-1394 lowlevel driver Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-09 23:40               ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 15:35           ` [PATCH 3/6] firewire: char device interface John Stoffel
2007-05-02 16:06             ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 21:11             ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-04  9:48               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-08  0:19                 ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 19:30           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-08  0:08             ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 19:29         ` [PATCH 2/6] firewire: isochronous and asynchronous I/O Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-03  0:08           ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-03  8:54             ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 15:55       ` [PATCH 1/6] firewire: handling of cards, buses, nodes Pekka Enberg
2007-05-02 19:16         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 20:35           ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-07 22:02             ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 21:16         ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 19:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-07 23:42         ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 20:00     ` [git pull] New firewire stack Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 12:21 ` Olaf Hering
2007-05-02 12:48   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 13:56     ` Gene Heskett [this message]
2007-05-02 18:51       ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-02 15:27     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-02 20:03       ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 19:53   ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-02 20:03     ` Olaf Hering
2007-05-10 17:26 ` [git pull] New firewire stack (updated) Stefan Richter
2007-05-10 17:38   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-10 17:51     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-10 17:56     ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-10 18:05     ` Stefan Richter
     [not found] <mailman.197656.1178135675.32383.linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
2007-05-03  0:04 ` [git pull] New firewire stack Jonathan Woithe
2007-05-03  8:22   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-03 11:48     ` Olaf Hering
2007-05-03 13:30       ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-03 16:34         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-03 17:33           ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-04  5:54             ` Bill Fink
2007-05-05 21:17       ` Olaf Hering
2007-05-08  0:28         ` Kristian Høgsberg
2007-05-03 23:07     ` Jonathan Woithe

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