From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
caglar@pardus.org.tr, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>, Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>,
Zach Carter <linux@zachcarter.com>,
buddabrod <buddabrod@gmail.com>, Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v8
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 12:40:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070502104038.GA11057@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1178092794.8926.43.camel@Homer.simpson.net>
* Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 23:22 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > - interactivity: precise load calculation and load smoothing
>
> This seems to help quite a bit.
great :)
> (5 second top sample)
>
> 2636 root 15 -5 19148 15m 5324 R 73 1.5 1:42.29 0 amarok_libvisua
> 5440 root 20 0 320m 36m 8388 S 18 3.6 3:28.55 1 Xorg
> 4621 root 20 0 22776 18m 4168 R 12 1.8 0:00.63 1 cc1
> 4616 root 20 0 19456 13m 2200 R 9 1.3 0:00.43 0 cc1
>
> I no longer have to renice both X and Gforce to achieve a perfect
> display when they are sharing my box with a make -j2. X is displaying
> everything it's being fed beautifully with no help. I have to renice
> Gforce (amarok_libvisual), but given it's very heavy CPU usage, that
> seems perfectly fine.
ah! Besides OpenGL behavior and app startup performance i didnt
originally have Xorg in mind with this change, but thinking about it,
precise load calculations and load smoothing does have a positive effect
on 'coupled' workloads where under the previous variant of CFS's load
calculation one task component of the workload could become 'invisible'
to another task and hence cause macro-scale scheduling artifacts not
expected by humans. With smoothing these are dealt with more
consistently. Xorg can be a quite strongly coupled workload.
> No regressions noticed so far. Box is _very_ responsive under load,
> seemingly even more so than with previous releases. That is purely
> subjective, but the first impression was very distinct.
yeah, make -jN workloads (and any mixture of non-identical scheduling
patterns, which most real workloads consist of) should be handled more
consistently too by -v8.
so your workload (and Gene's workload) were the ones in fact that i had
hoped not to _hurt_ with -v8 (neither of you being the hardcore gamer
type ;), and in reality -v8 ended up helping them too. These sorts of
side-effects are always welcome ;-)
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-02 10:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-01 21:22 [patch] CFS scheduler, -v8 Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 2:57 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-02 5:10 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-02 5:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-02 10:05 ` Bill Huey
2007-05-02 10:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 17:36 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-02 17:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-02 18:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 18:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-02 19:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 19:42 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 2:48 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-03 3:18 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-03 10:19 ` Bill Huey
2007-05-02 23:41 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-02 18:42 ` Li, Tong N
2007-05-02 19:10 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 3:07 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-03 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 14:26 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-03 15:19 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-03 15:02 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-02 6:37 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-05-02 6:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 8:03 ` Gene Heskett
2007-05-02 8:12 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-05-02 8:48 ` Gene Heskett
2007-05-02 8:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 8:51 ` Gene Heskett
2007-05-02 7:59 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-05-02 8:11 ` Gene Heskett
2007-05-02 10:40 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-05-02 9:08 ` Balbir Singh
2007-05-02 10:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-02 10:59 ` Balbir Singh
2007-05-02 11:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-05 8:31 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-05 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-06 8:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-06 8:36 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-06 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-06 17:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-07 11:30 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-07 15:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-07 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 0:35 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-08 9:05 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-09 0:01 ` Peter Williams
2007-05-10 13:09 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-11 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-11 19:18 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-11 19:37 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-11 20:53 ` Kevin Bowling
2007-05-07 11:09 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-07 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-07 18:39 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-05-07 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 7:34 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-08 9:54 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-05-08 10:27 ` Esben Nielsen
2007-05-08 5:36 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-02 12:58 ` Mark Lord
2007-05-02 12:58 ` Vegard Nossum
2007-05-02 16:41 ` Ingo Molnar
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-03 8:20 Zoltan Boszormenyi
2007-05-03 13:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 13:29 ` Damien Wyart
2007-05-03 14:53 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-03 15:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 18:44 ` Li, Tong N
2007-05-03 19:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-07 14:22 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-07 20:54 ` Li, Tong N
2007-05-07 0:04 ` Bill Davidsen
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