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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	wfg@ustc.edu
Subject: Re: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans
Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 16:36:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070502203627.GA18733@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070502172934.GA17782@infradead.org>

* Christoph Hellwig (hch@infradead.org) wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2007 at 09:47:07AM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > That doesn't constitute using it.
> > 
> > Andi, there was a huge amount of discussion about all this in September last
> > year (subjects: *markers* and *LTTng*). The outcome of all that was, I
> > believe, that the kernel should have a static marker infrastructure.
> 
> Only when it's actually useable.  A prerequisite for merging it is
> having an actual trace transport infrastructure aswell as a few actually
> useful tracing modules in the kernel tree.
> 
> Let this count as a vote to merge the markers once we have the infrastructure
> above ready, it'll be very useful then.

Hi Christoph,

The idea is the following : either we integrate the infrastructure for
instrumentation / data serialization / buffer management / extraction of
data to user space in multiple different steps, which makes code review
easier for you guys, or we bring the main pieces of the LTTng project
altogether with the Linux Kernel Markers, which would result in a bigger
change.

Based on the premise that discussing about logically distinct pieces of
infrastructure is easier and can be done more thoroughly when done
separately, we decided to submit the markers first, with the other
pieces planned in a near future.

I agree that it would be very useful to have the full tracing stack
available in the Linux kernel, but we inevitably face the argument :
"this change is too big" if we submit all LTTng modules at once or
the argument : "we want the whole tracing stack, not just part of it"
if we don't.

This is why we chose to push the tracing infrastructure chunk by chunk :
to make code review and criticism more efficient.

Regards,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-02 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 233+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-30 23:20 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Andrew Morton
2007-04-30 23:48 ` to something appropriate (was Re: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans) Jeff Garzik
2007-05-01  0:07   ` Dave Jones
2007-05-01  0:09   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01  0:24     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-01  0:40       ` [stable] " Chris Wright
2007-05-01  0:45         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-01  4:58           ` Greg KH
2007-05-01 16:14             ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-05-01 16:40               ` Alan Cox
2007-05-01 23:34                 ` Greg KH
2007-05-02  0:52                   ` Chris Wright
2007-05-02 14:10                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-05-01  9:49   ` Alan Cox
2007-04-30 23:59 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Bill Irwin
2007-05-01  0:09 ` nfsd/md patches " Neil Brown
2007-05-01  9:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01  9:15     ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01  9:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01  9:52     ` Neil Brown
2007-05-01 10:15       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01 14:34         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-05-01  0:54 ` MADV_FREE functionality Rik van Riel
2007-05-01  1:18   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01  1:23     ` Rik van Riel
2007-05-01  7:13     ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-05-01  1:23   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-01  1:39 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Stefan Richter
2007-05-01  2:30 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans (RE: input) Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-01  8:14   ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-01 12:05     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-05-01  8:11 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- pfn_valid_within Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-01  8:19   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01  8:42 ` "partical" kthread conversion Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01  8:51   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 14:01     ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 14:45       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-02 15:37         ` Dean Nelson
2007-05-02 15:49           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-02 19:33         ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 20:38           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01  8:44 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- vm bugfixes Nick Piggin
2007-05-01  8:54   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 19:31   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02  3:08     ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02  9:15       ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 14:00       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03  1:32         ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 10:37           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-03 12:56             ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04  9:23               ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04  9:43                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-08  3:03                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-03 12:24           ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 12:43             ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 12:58               ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 13:08                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-03 16:52           ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04  4:16             ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 12:34         ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 14:28           ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-09 14:45             ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 15:38               ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-09 22:24                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01  8:46 ` pcmcia ioctl removal Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01  8:56   ` Russell King
2007-05-01  8:57   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01  9:08     ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 14:46       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-01  9:16   ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-01  9:44     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 10:16       ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-01 10:26       ` Gabriel C
2007-05-01 10:52         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 10:12     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-01 11:00       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-05-01 12:06         ` Konstantin Münning
2007-05-01 13:56         ` Rogan Dawes
2007-05-01 19:10       ` Russell King
2007-05-01 20:41         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-09 12:54   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-09 13:00     ` Robert P. J. Day
2007-05-09 13:03     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-09 19:11       ` Romano Giannetti
2007-05-10 12:40         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-01  8:48 ` pci hotplug patches Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-02  3:57   ` Greg KH
2007-05-13 20:59     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-14 11:48       ` Greg KH
2007-05-01  8:54 ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <20070501020441.10b6a003.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-05-03  3:48     ` cache-pipe-buf-page-address-for-non-highmem-arch.patch Ken Chen
2007-05-01  8:55 ` consolidate-generic_writepages-and-mpage_writepages.patch Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01  9:17 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Pekka Enberg
2007-05-01  9:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-01  9:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-01 12:19   ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-01 17:12     ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-01 10:16 ` fragmentation avoidance " Mel Gorman
2007-05-01 13:02   ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans -- lumpy reclaim Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-01 18:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-05-01 19:00     ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 14:54   ` fragmentation avoidance Re: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 19:00     ` Mel Gorman
2007-05-01 18:57   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-07 13:07   ` Yasunori Goto
2007-05-01 12:17 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-01 22:08   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-02 10:44     ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 16:37       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-05-02 16:47       ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 17:29         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-02 20:36           ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-05-02 20:53             ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 23:11               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-02 23:21                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03 15:04                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-03 15:12                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-03 17:16                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-03 17:25                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-10 19:39                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-13 21:04                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-03  8:06                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-03 14:43                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-03 10:31                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-03 14:49                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-03  8:09               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-03  8:08             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-02 17:49         ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 21:46           ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-05-03 10:12             ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 17:19       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-02  0:31   ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-02 10:30     ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-01 13:06 ` file capabilities and security_task_wait failure " Stephen Smalley
2007-05-01 14:31 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: mm-more-rmap-checking Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02  1:42   ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-02 13:17     ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03  0:18       ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-01 16:56 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Zan Lynx
2007-05-01 17:06 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: mm-detach_vmas_to_be_unmapped-fix Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 18:10 ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 19:25   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 19:55   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 20:19     ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-01 20:36       ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 20:46         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 21:09           ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 12:54         ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 17:03           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:11             ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 19:42               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:54                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-02 20:14                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:52           ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-05-02 18:58             ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-01 21:08       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 12:45         ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 17:01           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:08             ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 18:28               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:42                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 18:53                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 17:25           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:36             ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-02 18:39               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 18:57                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 19:01                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:18                     ` Pekka Enberg
2007-05-02 19:34                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-02 19:43                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03  8:15             ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03  8:27               ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-03 16:30                 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03  8:46               ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03  8:57                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-03  9:15                   ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 21:04                     ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub on PowerPC Hugh Dickins
2007-05-03 21:15                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 22:41                         ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-04  0:25                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-05-04  0:54                         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 16:45                   ` 2.6.22 -mm merge plans: slub Christoph Lameter
2007-05-03 15:54 ` swap-prefetch: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Ingo Molnar
2007-05-03 16:15   ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-03 16:23     ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-03 22:14   ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-04  7:34   ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04  8:52     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-04  9:09       ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-04 12:10       ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-05  8:42         ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-06 10:13           ` [ck] " Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-06 18:22           ` Jory A. Pratt
2007-05-09 23:28           ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-10  0:05             ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10  1:34               ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-10  1:56                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10  3:48                   ` Ray Lee
2007-05-10  3:56                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10  5:52                       ` Ray Lee
2007-05-10  7:04                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10  7:20                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-10 12:34                           ` Ray Lee
2007-05-12  4:46                           ` [PATCH] mm: swap prefetch improvements Con Kolivas
2007-05-12  5:03                             ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12  5:15                               ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12  5:51                                 ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12  7:28                                   ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12  8:14                                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12  8:21                                       ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-12  8:37                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-05-12  8:57                                           ` [PATCH respin] " Con Kolivas
2007-05-21 10:03                             ` [PATCH] " Ingo Molnar
2007-05-21 13:44                               ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-21 16:00                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:15                                   ` Antonino Ingargiola
2007-05-22 10:20                                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:25                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:37                                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:46                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 10:54                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-22 10:57                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 11:04                                                 ` Con Kolivas
     [not found]                                                   ` <20070522111104.GA14950@elte.hu>
2007-05-22 11:12                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 20:18                                             ` [ck] " Michael Chang
2007-05-22 20:31                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-22 20:42                                           ` Ash Milsted
2007-05-22 22:50                                             ` Con Kolivas
2007-05-23  7:57                                               ` Ash Milsted
2007-05-10  3:58                     ` swap-prefetch: 2.6.22 -mm merge plans Con Kolivas
2007-05-07 14:28         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-07 14:18       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-05-07 17:47 ` Josef Sipek

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