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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Cc: "Cabot, Mason B" <mason.b.cabot@intel.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Ext3 vs NTFS performance
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 08:57:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070503125741.GA1518@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070503001511.GD77450368@melbourne.sgi.com>

On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 10:15:11AM +1000, David Chinner wrote:
[ bad fragmentation from a funky write one byte every 128k system ]
> 
> This only becomes a problem if the system has enough pages dirty to
> be triggering throttling so that the 1byte writes are converted before
> the data actually hits the server.
> 
> Even then, if you are on an XFS filesystem with a sunit/swidth set,
> the alocation alignments and speculative allocations will go a long
> way to preventing fragmentations.
> 
> If that doesn't work, then set the extent allocation size hint on the
> XFS inode to 128k or 256k to set the minimum all ocation size for the
> file to span the distance between the 1 byte writes. This attribute
> can be inherited from the parent directory on create, so it's a
> set and forget type of thing...
> 
> i.e. XFS has lots of ways to prevent perfromance from degrading
> on these sorts of issues.

I'm not surprised that XFS would fair the best in this workload,
but this sounds like a lot of magic that shouldn't be required.  The
fact that it is good to have the allocation knobs and delalloc in
general doesn't mean that samba shouldn't do the right thing and
preallocate the space in a sensible fashion.

-chris


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-03 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-01 20:43 Ext3 vs NTFS performance Cabot, Mason B
2007-05-01 21:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 12:21   ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 16:04     ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 18:40       ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 19:28         ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 16:16   ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 18:08     ` Jeremy Allison
2007-05-02 19:34       ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 20:38         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-02 22:01           ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02  3:54 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-05-02 15:46   ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 15:44 ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 19:46   ` Chris Mason
2007-05-03  0:15     ` David Chinner
2007-05-03 12:57       ` Chris Mason [this message]
2007-05-03 21:14   ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-03 22:40     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-05-04  8:12       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-04  9:46         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-04 14:47           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-04 15:49           ` Michael Tokarev
2007-05-04 18:41             ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-05  9:59             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-06 20:59           ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-04 12:23     ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-04 19:40       ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-04 18:56 ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-04 19:52   ` Cabot, Mason B
2007-05-07 14:31     ` Phillip Susi
2007-09-12 23:47 ` Update: " Cabot, Mason B
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-03  3:51 Al Boldi
2007-05-05  3:13 Xu CanHao
2007-05-05 13:45 ` Theodore Tso
     [not found] <8hiYr-2fJ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8huGm-2W4-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-05 22:25   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-05-06  5:04     ` Xu CanHao
2007-05-06  1:48 Albert Cahalan
     [not found] <8gShI-3hY-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8h1bh-8sG-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8h2Al-280-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8hW9y-2Lp-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-07 11:21       ` Bodo Eggert

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