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From: Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Albert Cahalan <acahalan@gmail.com>,
	"Antonino A. Daplas" <adaplas@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	aeb@cwi.nl
Subject: Re: console font limits
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 23:58:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705032358.56055.dhazelton@enter.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <463A80A9.7030809@zytor.com>

On Thursday 03 May 2007 20:39:05 H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Kyle Moffett wrote:
> > Actually I think the real problem was that "KD_GRAPHICS" got overloaded
> > to mean "some userspace program is probably poking at the GPU in very
> > direct ways possibly including /dev/mem".  As such it really isn't safe
> > at all for the kernel to write stuff to the screen in that situation;
> > you could turn a panic()+reboot-after-30-secs into an unrecoverable hard
> > PCI bus lockup.  IIRC there were at least a couple chipsets which had
> > that problem with X.  If we can implement enough APIs for X to do all of
> > its stuff from userspace without iopl() or /dev/mem then we could
> > probably bring back the option for dumping oopses to screen in
> > KD_GRAPHICS mode, but otherwise it'll just cause more headaches.
>
> It never meant anything *BUT* that, to the best of my knowledge.  That
> was certainly the original meaning of KD_GRAPHICS.

I started work last year on making the framebuffer layer use the DRM internals 
for all controls, providing a unified kernel and userspace system for 
accessing the graphics devices. It never got anywhere because I couldn't 
figure out a simple system for figuring out which driver (out of the numerous 
ones that could potentially be compiled into the kernel) to actually give 
control to. (I know I could have just looped over them all and figured it out 
that way, but that is far from elegant)

I guess I could start on that work again - shouldn't take me all that long to 
recover the stuff I lost when a blackout caused my hard drive to get 
corrupted beyond recovery (and the automated journal replay didn't do a 
damned thing - I think it actually *added* to the corruption, but I don't 
think any filesystem would have survived that)

DRH

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-04  3:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-01  4:09 console font limits Albert Cahalan
2007-05-01 11:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-05-01 12:11   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-01 15:05     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01 15:49       ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-02 18:02         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-03  6:17           ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-03  7:12             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-03 14:14               ` Albert Cahalan
2007-05-03 14:26                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-03 15:56                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-05-03 18:27                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-03 20:15                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-03 20:16                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-04  0:17                           ` Kyle Moffett
2007-05-04  0:39                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-04  3:58                               ` Daniel Hazelton [this message]
2007-05-04  4:59                                 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-04 15:34                                   ` Jesse Barnes
2007-05-06 23:35                                     ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-05-03  7:19         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-03  7:45           ` Helge Hafting
2007-05-03 10:20           ` Alan Cox
2007-05-01 17:06 ` Ken Moffat
2007-05-03 17:11 ` Andries Brouwer

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