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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Bernd Eckenfels <ecki@lina.inka.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Ext3 vs NTFS performance
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:46:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070504094610.GA31607@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0733FB88-3E6E-47B7-A55D-704B5C0DB239@cam.ac.uk>

On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 09:12:31AM +0100, Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> Nothing to do with win32 functions.  Windows does NOT create sparse  
> files therefore it never can have an issue like ext3 does in this  
> scenario.  Windows will cause nice allocations to happen because of  
> this and the 1-byte writes are perfectly sensible in this regard.   
> (Although a little odd as Windows has a proper API for doing  
> preallocation so I don't get why it is not using that instead...)

Which means the right place to fix this is samba.  Samba just need
to intersept lseek and pread/pwrite to never allocate sparse files
but do the right thing instead.  Now what the right thing would probably
be a preallocate instead of writing zeroes, and we need to provide the
infrastructure for them to do it, which is in progress currently.
(And in fact samba already does the right thing for XFS if you use
the prealloc samba vfs module, which AFAIK is not the default)


  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-04  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-01 20:43 Ext3 vs NTFS performance Cabot, Mason B
2007-05-01 21:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-02 12:21   ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 16:04     ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 18:40       ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 19:28         ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 16:16   ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 18:08     ` Jeremy Allison
2007-05-02 19:34       ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02 20:38         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-02 22:01           ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-02  3:54 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-05-02 15:46   ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 15:44 ` David Chinner
2007-05-02 19:46   ` Chris Mason
2007-05-03  0:15     ` David Chinner
2007-05-03 12:57       ` Chris Mason
2007-05-03 21:14   ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-03 22:40     ` Bernd Eckenfels
2007-05-04  8:12       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-04  9:46         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2007-05-04 14:47           ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-05-04 15:49           ` Michael Tokarev
2007-05-04 18:41             ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-05  9:59             ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-06 20:59           ` Jörn Engel
2007-05-04 12:23     ` Theodore Tso
2007-05-04 19:40       ` Valerie Henson
2007-05-04 18:56 ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-04 19:52   ` Cabot, Mason B
2007-05-07 14:31     ` Phillip Susi
2007-09-12 23:47 ` Update: " Cabot, Mason B
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-05-03  3:51 Al Boldi
2007-05-05  3:13 Xu CanHao
2007-05-05 13:45 ` Theodore Tso
     [not found] <8hiYr-2fJ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8huGm-2W4-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-05 22:25   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-05-06  5:04     ` Xu CanHao
2007-05-06  1:48 Albert Cahalan
     [not found] <8gShI-3hY-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8h1bh-8sG-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <8h2Al-280-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <8hW9y-2Lp-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-05-07 11:21       ` Bodo Eggert

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