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From: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Satyam Sharma <satyam.sharma@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul Sokolovsky <pmiscml@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jeremy@goop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] doc: volatile considered evil
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 19:08:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070508190800.1334b968.randy.dunlap@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.99.0705081702070.28511@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Tue, 8 May 2007 17:06:23 -0700 (PDT) David Rientjes wrote:

> On Tue, 8 May 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> 
> > From: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
> > 
> > Add information on the problems with the C-language "volatile" keyword
> > and why it should not be used (most of the time).
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/volatile-usage.txt |  129 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 129 insertions(+)
> > 
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ linux-2.6.21-git10/Documentation/volatile-usage.txt
> > @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@
> > +***** "volatile" considered useless and evil:  Just Say NO! *****
> > +
> > +Do not use the C-language "volatile" keyword
> > +(extracted from lkml emails from Linus)
> > +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > +
> 
> Again, please change this sweeping introduction to explicitly state that 
> Linus' emails were a criticism of using 'volatile' for objects (he refers 
> to them as "data structures") and can be appropriate for asm constructs.

You haven't replied to my other emails...

"volatile" used on a gcc asm extension is different, granted.
It's not even a C-language "volatile" keyword AFAICT, so it doesn't
apply in this context.


Anyway, how is this slightly modified title?

+***** "volatile" considered useless and evil:  Just Say NO! *****
+
+Do not use the C-language "volatile" keyword on kernel data
+(extracted from lkml emails from Linus)


---
~Randy
*** Remember to use Documentation/SubmitChecklist when testing your code ***

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-09  2:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-01  5:08 [RFC, PATCH 2/4] SoC base drivers: ASIC3 SoC hardware definitions Paul Sokolovsky
2007-05-01  6:56 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-01 10:27   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-01 12:04     ` Paul Sokolovsky
2007-05-01 12:21       ` Jamey Hicks
2007-05-08 19:14   ` [RFC/PATCH] doc: volatile considered evil Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 19:18     ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 20:00       ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-05-08 20:20         ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 23:13           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 23:54             ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09  0:00               ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 21:05         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 21:10           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-05-08 21:16           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-08 21:26             ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 21:25               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-08 21:20       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 21:27         ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 21:37           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 21:59             ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 22:04               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 22:19                 ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 22:29                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-08 22:35                     ` David Rientjes
2007-05-08 23:09           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 21:29         ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-08 20:07     ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-08 23:34       ` [PATCH] " Randy Dunlap
2007-05-09  0:06         ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09  2:08           ` Randy Dunlap [this message]
2007-05-09  2:38             ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09  3:15               ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-09  9:21               ` Alan Cox
2007-05-09  9:26                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 13:31                   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-09 10:25                 ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09 13:36                   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-09 18:41                     ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09 20:23                       ` Alan Cox
2007-05-09 20:25                         ` David Rientjes
2007-05-09 22:47                         ` Rob Landley
2007-05-09  8:50         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09 15:52           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-05-09 19:04             ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-09  1:47     ` [RFC/PATCH] " Jonathan Corbet
2007-05-09  9:43       ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-05-09 19:34         ` Satyam Sharma

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