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From: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Greg K-H <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Please revert 5adc55da4a7758021bcc374904b0f8b076508a11 (PCI_MULTITHREAD_PROBE)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 22:51:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070508225159.3442563f@gondolin.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705081249540.3882@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Tue, 8 May 2007 13:01:21 -0700 (PDT),
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> Instead of changing existign probe functionality to be asynchronous, we 
> could *add* a new and asynchronous part to it. For example, we could make 
> the rule for PCI - or other bus - devices be:
> 
>  - the bus will *first* call the "probe()" function synchronously.
> 
>  - after that one has completed, we will call "probe_async()" 
>    asynchronously at some point (it ie might be scheduled immediately 
>    after the "probe()" call, but delayed by some arbitrary issues like 
>    just already having too many asynchronous probes on-going or similar)

Hm. This would mean that probe() would be the decision "I want to use
this device", while probe_async() would be "setup my device, may take
some time"? Could work.

> So an unmodified driver would basically work exactly like it does now, but 
> if a driver is happy with being called asynchronously, it could just 
> change it's 
> 
> 	.probe = mydriver_probe
> 
> thing into a
> 
> 	.probe_async = mydriver_probe
> 
> and we can do that ona per-driver basis with that kind of really simple 
> one-liner change.

But probe would return int, while probe_async would return void? Two
liner :)

> 
> In fact, there is nothing wrong with having *both* a synchronous part, and 
> an async part:
> 
> 	.probe = mydriver_setup,
> 	.probe_async = mydriver_spin_up_and_probe_devices,
> 
> and it would do basic setup (including, for example, the fast enumeration 
> of whatever devices are connected) synchronously, but then do anything 
> more in the async part - and the async part would still be guaranteed that 
> the setup has been run by the time it is scheduled (but not really have 
> any other guarantees).

Looks like an idea.

I'll sleep on it, just too tired to make sense.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-08 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-08 13:37 Please revert 5adc55da4a7758021bcc374904b0f8b076508a11 (PCI_MULTITHREAD_PROBE) Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 14:07 ` Greg KH
2007-05-08 20:58   ` David Miller
2007-05-09  9:44     ` Greg KH
2007-05-09 17:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 14:11 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-05-08 14:41   ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 15:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 16:38     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 16:47       ` david
2007-05-08 21:45         ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-08 18:30       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 19:21         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 19:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 20:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 20:26               ` david
2007-05-09  7:58                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09  8:33                   ` david
2007-05-09  9:15                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09  9:25                       ` david
2007-05-09 13:20                         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 16:18                           ` david
2007-05-09 17:07                             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 17:09                               ` david
2007-05-09 17:48                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 17:53                                   ` david
2007-05-09 18:36                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 18:52                                       ` david
2007-05-10  7:38                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 17:07                             ` Greg KH
2007-05-09 17:25                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-09  9:30                       ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09 22:21                 ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-09 22:37                   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-10 14:23                     ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-10 14:55                       ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-11  7:22                         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 20:51               ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2007-05-08 21:41               ` David Miller
2007-05-09  9:55                 ` Greg KH
2007-05-09  8:14               ` Duncan Sands
2007-05-09  8:45                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09  9:16                   ` Duncan Sands
2007-05-09 12:37                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-08 20:36             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09  9:53       ` Greg KH
2007-05-09 13:38         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 16:42           ` Greg KH
2007-05-09 16:50             ` david
2007-05-09 17:14               ` Cornelia Huck
2007-05-09 17:09             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-08 21:15     ` David Miller
2007-05-08 22:19       ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-09  9:46       ` Greg KH
2007-05-08 15:15 ` Linus Torvalds

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