From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Paul E McKenney <paulmck@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFD] Freezing of kernel threads
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:48:46 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070514061846.GA30625@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705130925290.6739@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 09:33:41AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2007, Gautham R Shenoy wrote:
> > RFC #1: Use get_hot_cpus()- put_hot_cpus() , which follow the
> > well known refcounting model.
>
> Yes. And usign the "preempt count" as a refcount is fairly natural, no?
> We do already depend on that in many code-paths.
>
> It also has the advantage since it's not a *blocking* lock, [...]
get/put_hot_cpus() was intended to be similar and not same as
get/put_cpu().
One difference is get_hot_cpus() has to be a blocking lock. It has to block
when there is a cpu_down/up operation already in progress, otherwise it isn't
of much help to serialize readers/writers. Note that a cpu_down/up is marked in
progress *before* the first notifier is sent (CPU_DOWN/UP_PREPARE) and not just
when changing the cpu_online_map bitmap.
Because it can be a blocking call, there needs to be associated
machinery to wake up sleeping readers/writers.
The other complication get/put_hotcpu() had was dealing with
write-followed-by-read lock attempt by the *same* thread (whilst doing
cpu_down/up). IIRC this was triggered by some callback processing in CPU_DEAD
or CPU_DOWN_PREPARE.
cpu_down()
|- take write lock
|- CPU_DOWN_PREPARE
| |- foo() wants a read_lock
Stupid as it sounds, it was really found to be happening! Gautham, do you
recall who that foo() was? Somebody in cpufreq I guess ..
Tackling that requires some state bit in task_struct to educate
read_lock to be a no-op if write lock is already held by the thread.
In summary, get/put_hot_cpu() will need to be (slightly) more complex than
something like get/put_cpu(). Perhaps this complexity was what put off
Andrew when he suggested the use of freezer (http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/11/1/400)
> For example, since all users of cpu_online_map should be pure *readers*
> (apart from a couple of cases that actually bring up a CPU), you can do
> things like
>
> #define cpu_online_map check_cpu_online_map()
>
> static inline cpumask_t check_cpu_online_map(void)
> {
> WARN_ON(!preempt_safe()); /* or whatever lock we decide on */
> return __real_cpu_online_map;
> }
I remember Rusty had a similar function to check for unsafe references
to cpu_online_map way back when cpu hotplug was being developed. It will
be a good idea to reintroduce that back.
> and it will nicely catch things like that.
--
Regards,
vatsa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-14 6:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-12 18:17 [RFD] Freezing of kernel threads Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-12 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 19:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-12 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-12 22:14 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-12 22:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-12 19:36 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-12 19:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-12 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-13 8:33 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-13 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-13 20:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-13 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-13 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-14 6:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2007-05-14 7:26 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2007-05-14 10:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-14 7:41 ` Dipankar Sarma
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