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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: "Francesco Pretto" <ceztko@gmail.com>
Cc: "Dave Jones" <davej@redhat.com>, "Tejun Heo" <htejun@gmail.com>,
	"Phillip Susi" <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Weird hard disk noise on shutdown (bug #7674)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:47:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705161947.36177.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e5ab0f710705160215p6b11bffeh53796b1b2223fd6d@mail.gmail.com>

On Wednesday 16 May 2007 5:15 am, Francesco Pretto wrote:
> - everyone else:
> // continue to do nothing :-)
> reboot();

That would be cool, but the impression I got from 
http://linux-ata.org/shutdown.html was that shutdown commands were supposed 
to _add_ quiescing of drives in order to avoid emergency head parking on 
poweroff.

That article says:

> Distros should update their shutdown(8) to do the followings.
> Check whether /sys/modules/libata/parameters/spindown_compat exists. If it
> does, write 0 to it. For each libata harddisk
> Check whether /sys/class/scsi_disk/h:c:i:l/manage_start_stop exists. If it
> doesn't, synchronize cache and spin the disk down as before. If it does, do
> nothing and continue to the next disk. The file is also accessible as
> /sys/block/sdX/device/scsi_disk:*/manage_start_stop.

You're saying all this is to work around kernels _before_ 2.6.22, and instead 
of updating your shutdown you could just either update the kernel instead?

> If exists some, at this point, exotic shutdown(8) implementation that
> is trying to issue STANDBYBOW on libata/scsi devices, it will get a
> fat warning. The warning could also state that the only supported way
> is to leave complete responsibility of spinning down the hard disks to
> kernel, so eventually it could be cleaned of checks and compatibility
> options.

I'm all for leaving this to the kernel.  I play in the embedded space a lot, 
so the less I can get away with doing, the better. :)

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-16 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.Ia7dfo7Zd5kB6KhSYisfswa1aj4@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.YHt2nIlQmoW5r2enmTSzsaySwH4@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-22  2:43   ` Weird hard disk noise on shutdown (bug #7674) Robert Hancock
2007-02-23 20:35     ` Francesco Pretto
     [not found]       ` <e5ab0f710703020009u2b94fb72ja51e85b8b90eaba0@mail.gmail.com>
2007-03-02 23:43         ` Dan Gilliam
2007-05-04 19:12       ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-04 20:39         ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-06 18:19           ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-06 18:24             ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-14 17:32             ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-14 20:46               ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-15  6:59                 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-15 13:16                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-15 13:47                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-15 21:08               ` Dave Jones
2007-05-16  5:29                 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-16  9:15                   ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-16 11:38                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 23:47                     ` Rob Landley [this message]
2007-05-17  9:12                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 11:41                   ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 23:48                     ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17  0:58                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-17  3:05                         ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17  3:39                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-17 15:04                             ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-18  7:16                               ` Rob Landley
2007-05-18 12:35                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-18 18:27                                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-17  9:14                       ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 12:47                   ` Stephen Clark
2007-05-16 13:49                     ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-16 23:52                       ` Rob Landley
2007-05-16 11:38                 ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]   ` <fa.7/l6y5w9DWACpMl9PLWnCeZVtaY@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]     ` <fa.jM0Jz2vqE6sFKJ24x7Krs9Md4+Y@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]       ` <fa.htPXmkKzsdLgiNC0YHDJwdgDLHg@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-23  0:25         ` Robert Hancock
     [not found] <fa.3exEXR8lVInBQnVOUQZm+V7aqZE@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.SUiPva6BdeZMJsAbFE/HC5i0jfs@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.YdL5PeKPp7ARbGWGIgctXVh/iLQ@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]     ` <fa.xsAgWkCiu+x5MGhvd/b5EHrU+ic@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]       ` <fa.FUWb3SroQ9sotSIAakSnOjAJ6Ks@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-22 14:34         ` Robert Hancock
     [not found] <fa.Fk9DulKIUBewV0V2B72MDzbelmU@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.RCbhxyLCSR5f65HWabMGmxZNYQ4@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.G4k+9fbJDE0N5pygu22mRYU6gfE@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-22  6:27     ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-22  7:11       ` Tejun Heo
2007-02-22 11:33       ` Francesco Pretto
2007-02-21 22:15 Francesco Pretto
2007-02-21 23:55 ` Alan
2007-02-22  1:01   ` Francesco Pretto
2007-02-22 13:53     ` Alan
2007-02-22 15:22       ` Rolf Offermanns
2007-02-22 22:47       ` Francesco Pretto

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