From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Francesco Pretto <ceztko@gmail.com>,
Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Weird hard disk noise on shutdown (bug #7674)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 19:48:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705161948.56497.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <464AEDD0.3090304@gmail.com>
On Wednesday 16 May 2007 7:41 am, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Rob Landley wrote:
> > Um, hang on. So libata can't reliably turn the system off without data
loss
> > and potential damage to hardware unless userspace goes through a special
song
> > and dance? And this is _not_ considered a defect in the kernel?
>
> Yeap, definitely a bug in the kernel and we're trying to fix it. Just
> for the record, we have _always_ issued FLUSH CACHE, so there hasn't
> been and won't be any data loss problem. The data loss problem was
> mentioned as why we can't do things completely inside kernel without
> updating userland shutdown(8) which issues STANDBYNOW.
Ok, so the change is to get shutdown to _stop_ doing something stupid
(spinning down the disk without first flushing the cache), and the correct
thing for shutdown to do is keep its' mitts off the thing and let the kernel
power down the darn hardware?
Woot,
Rob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-16 23:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <fa.YHt2nIlQmoW5r2enmTSzsaySwH4@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-22 2:43 ` Weird hard disk noise on shutdown (bug #7674) Robert Hancock
2007-02-23 20:35 ` Francesco Pretto
[not found] ` <e5ab0f710703020009u2b94fb72ja51e85b8b90eaba0@mail.gmail.com>
2007-03-02 23:43 ` Dan Gilliam
2007-05-04 19:12 ` Phillip Susi
2007-05-04 20:39 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-06 18:19 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-06 18:24 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-14 17:32 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-14 20:46 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-15 6:59 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-15 13:16 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-15 13:47 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-15 21:08 ` Dave Jones
2007-05-16 5:29 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-16 9:15 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-16 11:38 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 23:47 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17 9:12 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 11:41 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 23:48 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2007-05-17 0:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-17 3:05 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-17 3:39 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-17 15:04 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-18 7:16 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-18 12:35 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-18 18:27 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-17 9:14 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 12:47 ` Stephen Clark
2007-05-16 13:49 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-05-16 23:52 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-16 11:38 ` Tejun Heo
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[not found] ` <fa.htPXmkKzsdLgiNC0YHDJwdgDLHg@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-23 0:25 ` Robert Hancock
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[not found] ` <fa.FUWb3SroQ9sotSIAakSnOjAJ6Ks@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-22 14:34 ` Robert Hancock
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[not found] ` <fa.G4k+9fbJDE0N5pygu22mRYU6gfE@ifi.uio.no>
2007-02-22 6:27 ` Robert Hancock
2007-02-22 7:11 ` Tejun Heo
2007-02-22 11:33 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-02-21 22:15 Francesco Pretto
2007-02-21 23:55 ` Alan
2007-02-22 1:01 ` Francesco Pretto
2007-02-22 13:53 ` Alan
2007-02-22 15:22 ` Rolf Offermanns
2007-02-22 22:47 ` Francesco Pretto
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