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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
Subject: Re: [stable] Wanted: Allow adding new device IDs during the -stable cycle
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:00:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070522220044.GB3429@sequoia.sous-sol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070522193538.GA885@kroah.com>

* Greg KH (greg@kroah.com) wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 03:04:08PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> >  Really, it is just silly to think that one-line PCI IDs patches will cause 
> >  any harm at all, and it should be self-evident that there is clear potential 
> >  to HELP Linux users.  That's why we're all here, right?

Yes, we're here to help.  The only compelling reasons not do to it were/are:

1) -stable has never been about adding features (easy to consider new
hardware support a feature).

2) In theory new hardware can seem to work with a simple PCI ID
update, and later we find it needs extra quirk handling or specific
driver support.  This could mean adding buggy support for new hardware
to -stable.  In practice, hopefully this isn't a real issue.

3) It hasn't been a pressing issue brought to our attention until this
thread and its predecessor earlier in the month.

My own personal experience is each time I've needed a PCI ID update for
new hardware it's also needed changes to the driver (read: e1000, every
single time).  So from my perspective neither sysfs nor relaxing -stable
rules slightly would actually help provide support for new hardware,
but that's clearly limited experience.

> I'm not disagreeing that it will help a set of users, or that it will
> cause any harm at all.  It's just currently outside the scope for what
> we defined -stable as, and it will slightly increase the workload that
> Chris and I have in keeping up with these patches.
> 
> So, if there is an overwhelming majority of people that strongly feel
> that this is a good thing, fine, we can try it out.

Yes, if it will serve -stable users better, we can give it a trial run
to see how it goes.

thanks,
-chris

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-22 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-22 18:14 [stable] Wanted: Allow adding new device IDs during the -stable cycle Chuck Ebbert
2007-05-22 18:47 ` Greg KH
2007-05-22 18:53   ` Dave Jones
2007-05-22 19:36     ` Greg KH
2007-05-22 19:04   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 19:35     ` Greg KH
2007-05-22 19:51       ` Dave Jones
2007-05-22 22:17         ` Greg KH
2007-05-22 22:56           ` Dave Jones
2007-05-23  0:06             ` Greg KH
2007-05-24  1:20           ` David Hollis
2007-05-24 20:44             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 20:24       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-22 22:15         ` Greg KH
2007-05-22 22:00       ` Chris Wright [this message]
2007-05-22 22:19         ` Greg KH
2007-05-22 22:47         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-23  0:25           ` Chris Wright
2007-05-24 10:04     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-24 10:06       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-25  6:46         ` Pavel Machek

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