From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753424AbXEYXYS (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2007 19:24:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751967AbXEYXYI (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2007 19:24:08 -0400 Received: from outbound-mail-36.bluehost.com ([69.89.20.190]:56950 "HELO outbound-mail-36.bluehost.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751880AbXEYXYG (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 May 2007 19:24:06 -0400 From: Jesse Barnes To: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] i386/x86_64: Allow disabling the putstr's =?iso-8859-1?q?from=09compressed_boot?= wrapper Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:23:55 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 Cc: Ben Collins , Andi Kleen , Ben Collins , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <98cd38b5.git.bcollins@ubuntu.com> <1180097543.12570.396.camel@cunning> <46573CE4.8080300@zytor.com> In-Reply-To: <46573CE4.8080300@zytor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200705251623.55551.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> X-Identified-User: {642:box128.bluehost.com:virtuous:virtuousgeek.org} {sentby:smtp auth 76.102.120.196 authed with jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org} Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday, May 25, 2007 12:45:40 H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Ben Collins wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 13:33 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > >> Ben Collins writes: > >> > >> Why? > > > > Because there's no other way to make the kernel totally quiet. We've > > been patching this out so that the boot sequence has that "clean look". > > > > Other than that, it's useless :) > > Worse than that, it's harmful. > > "Clean look" means "undebuggable." But how often do you have to debug bootloader or compressed boot code? In fact, most debug output like this isn't very useful after some initial debugging, so we usually take it out. I'm not sure why this would be any different... Jesse