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From: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Maciej Rutecki <maciej.rutecki@gmail.com>,
	Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	len.brown@intel.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 [cannot change thermal trip points]
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:46:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705312246.11576.lenb@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070521121139.GB8332@elf.ucw.cz>

On Monday 21 May 2007 08:11, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Thu 2007-05-17 18:42:43, Len Brown wrote:
> > > Something similar happened to me on XE3, yes.
> > > 
> > > (Actual values were different; BIOS specified critical temperature at
> > > cca 95C, but hw killed the power at cca 83C. Setting critical trip
> > > point at 80C made the problem go away.)
> > 
> > Great, please file a bug and include the acpidump from the XE3
> > and we'll fix it, rather than supporting a bogus (manual) workaround for it.
> 
> It is few years since I do not have that XE3 machine.
> 
> > Of course if your system is running at 80*C and the hardware shuts
> > off at 83*C, you may have a broken fan, or one clogged with dust...
> 
> It _did_ have broken fan. It also had broken trip points.

Thanks for clarifying this, Pavel.
If you come upon an XE3 where Linux-2.6.22 doesn't work as well
as Windows, please let me know.

Given that the justification for this ill-conceived workaround
seems to have diminished to the memory of broken hardware,
it is clear that we should stay the course of removing it
so that it doesn't further confuse future users.

If SuSE violently disagrees with me, you are certainly empowered
to restore the workaround in your distribution staring at 2.6.22
as part of your value add.  However, given its history of confusing
users, it seems that it might increase your support burden rather
than decrease it.

-Len

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-01  2:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-16  3:19 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-05-16  6:06 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-05-16  7:58   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Jeff Garzik
2007-05-16  8:04     ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-05-16 15:33       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Jeff Garzik
2007-05-16 20:24       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Darrick J. Wong
2007-05-16 16:54   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Randy Dunlap
2007-05-16  7:57 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 - s390 vs. md Cornelia Huck
2007-05-16 17:21   ` Williams, Dan J
2007-05-16 10:18 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-16 15:16   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-16 17:40     ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-05-16 17:55       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-16 18:18         ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2007-05-16 18:00       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-05-16 23:32       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-16 23:36       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-17  9:35         ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-05-29 22:34           ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2007-06-01  9:50             ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2007-06-01 23:12               ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-05 18:38                 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2007-06-05 22:57                   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-07  9:49                     ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2007-06-11 13:58                       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
     [not found]                         ` <63a08cc7547f14065becdf9a94d0d529@pinky>
2007-06-11 16:15                           ` [PATCH] move the kernel to 16MB for NUMA-Q Andrew Morton
2007-06-11 17:20                             ` Dave Jones
2007-06-11 17:36                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-11 18:19                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-11 18:46                                   ` Dave Jones
2007-06-11 19:17                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-06-11 20:07                                     ` Rene Herman
2007-06-11 20:21                                       ` Rene Herman
2007-06-11 19:01                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-11 20:44                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-11 20:51                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15 11:12                                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-11 17:49                               ` Rene Herman
2007-06-11 17:58                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-11 18:01                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-05-17  4:16     ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Bharata B Rao
2007-05-18  8:54     ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 young dave
2007-05-18 10:07       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 young dave
2007-05-18 16:54         ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-18 16:59           ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Mel Gorman
2007-05-21  0:53           ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 young dave
2007-05-21  4:49             ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-21  5:00               ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 young dave
2007-05-21  5:03                 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-21  5:39                   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 young dave
     [not found]                     ` <465138CC.3060605@zytor.com>
2007-05-21  8:41                       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 young dave
2007-05-21 16:35                         ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-22  2:14                           ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 young dave
     [not found]                             ` <465319C1.2080206@zytor.com>
2007-05-23  1:15                               ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 young dave
2007-05-16 12:10 ` (NFS) BUG: at page-writeback.c:829 [Was: 2.6.22-rc1-mm1] Jiri Slaby
2007-05-16 12:39   ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 12:44     ` Jiri Slaby
2007-05-16 12:47       ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 13:00     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-05-16 13:06       ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-16 12:52   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-05-16 14:30 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-16 14:37   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Nick Piggin
     [not found]     ` <6bffcb0e0705160935r1767a764hce72f24f9eee6c1e@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-16 16:58       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Jiri Slaby
2007-05-16 15:34   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Gabriel C
2007-05-16 16:24 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-16 16:41   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-05-17  2:06     ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 David Chinner
2007-05-17  8:41       ` [xfs-masters] 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-17 20:05         ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-18  2:11           ` David Chinner
2007-05-21 10:11             ` David Chinner
2007-05-21 10:23               ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-22 10:44                 ` David Chinner
2007-05-22 11:42                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-22 23:23                   ` Nathan Scott
2007-05-22 14:45               ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-16 16:50 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Randy Dunlap
2007-05-16 17:00   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Richard Purdie
2007-05-16 17:06     ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Andrew Morton
2007-05-16 19:55       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Richard Purdie
2007-05-16 20:00       ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Richard Purdie
2007-05-18 17:34         ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Edward Shishkin
2007-05-16 17:37 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 [cannot change thermal trip points] Maciej Rutecki
2007-05-16 17:47   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-05-16 18:10     ` Goulven Guillard
2007-05-17  9:23     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-17 13:36       ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-05-17 19:08         ` Len Brown
2007-05-17 20:09           ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-05-17 20:42             ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-05-17 21:53           ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-17 22:42             ` Len Brown
2007-05-21 12:11               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-01  2:46                 ` Len Brown [this message]
2007-06-04 11:16                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-17 19:17       ` Len Brown
2007-05-17 21:52         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-17 22:35           ` Len Brown
2007-06-04  9:02             ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-06-04 11:06               ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-19 19:56         ` Thomas Renninger
2007-05-21  3:50           ` Len Brown
2007-05-21 11:31             ` Thomas Renninger
2007-05-21 12:10             ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-21 13:27               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-21 13:29                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-21 13:36                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-21 13:40                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-21 13:45                       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-21 22:42                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-22  0:31                           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-22  9:06                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-22  9:16                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-22  9:28                                 ` Goulven Guillard
2007-05-22 10:05                                 ` Maciej Rutecki
2007-06-04  9:13                               ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-05-24 14:16                             ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Implementing fan/thermal control in userspace - Was: " Thomas Renninger
2007-05-24 14:36                               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-24 18:18                                 ` Thomas Renninger
2007-05-25  6:38                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-27 21:51                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28 10:58                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 12:50                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28 12:53                                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-16 18:55 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1: IDE compile error Adrian Bunk
2007-05-23 23:45   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-05-24 10:55     ` Alan Cox
2007-05-24 18:53       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-25  0:05       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-25  0:14         ` Alan Cox
2007-05-25  0:18           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-25  0:38             ` Alan Cox
2007-05-25  0:51               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-25 14:19                 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-17 12:38 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 - Call trace in slub_def.h Reuben Farrelly
2007-05-17 12:52   ` Satyam Sharma
2007-05-20 10:12 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Mariusz Kozlowski
2007-05-20 10:21   ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Sam Ravnborg
2007-05-20 15:33     ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1 Kumar Gala
2007-05-22  7:25 ` 2.6.22-rc1-mm1: evm BUG when reading sysfs file Joseph Fannin
2007-05-22 21:23   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-25 21:05     ` Mimi Zohar

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