From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cotte@de.ibm.com, hugh@veritas.com,
neilb@suse.de, zanussi@us.ibm.com, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sendfile removal
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 17:02:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070602150228.GI32105@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46604F0D.9070806@zytor.com>
On Fri, Jun 01 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > So there's a few things to take away from this:
> >
> > - regular file access MUST NOT return EAGAIN just because a page isn't
> > in the cache. Doing so is simply a bug. No ifs, buts or maybe's about
> > it!
> >
> > Busy-looping is NOT ACCEPTABLE!
> >
> > - you *could* make some alternative conventions:
> >
> > (a) you could make O_NONBLOCK mean that you'll at least
> > guarantee that you *start* the IO, and while you never return
> > EAGAIN, you migth validly return a _partial_ result!
> >
> > (b) variation on (a): it's ok to return EAGAIN if _you_ were the
> > one who started the IO during this particular time aroudn the
> > loop. But if you find a page that isn't up-to-date yet, and
> > you didn't start the IO, you *must* wait for it, so that you
> > end up returning EAGAIN atmost once! Exactly because
> > busy-looping is simply not acceptable behaviour!
>
> (b) seems really ugly. (a) is at least well-defined. Either seems
> wrong, though.
I totally agree, b) would get nasty. And while a) isn't perfect by any
means, I do follow Linus' logic and agree it's probably the best (only?)
way to handle it.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-02 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-31 10:33 [PATCH] sendfile removal Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 10:47 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 10:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-31 10:53 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01 4:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-01 5:41 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01 5:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-01 7:22 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-01 15:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-01 16:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-01 16:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-01 16:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-02 15:02 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2007-06-02 15:01 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-02 15:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-02 16:35 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20070603130507.GA11170@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-06-03 13:05 ` Fengguang Wu
[not found] ` <20070603142931.GA5916@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-06-03 14:29 ` Fengguang Wu
[not found] ` <20070604004647.GA8076@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-06-04 0:46 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-04 8:05 ` Jens Axboe
[not found] ` <20070604112214.GA7457@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-06-04 11:22 ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-01 16:22 ` Pádraig Brady
2007-05-31 10:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-31 11:05 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 12:26 ` Neil Brown
2007-05-31 12:27 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01 2:44 ` [PATCH] sendfile removal (nfsd update) Neil Brown
2007-06-01 5:44 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01 8:01 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01 8:15 ` [PATCH] sendfile removal Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 11:04 ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-31 11:06 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 15:33 ` Tom Zanussi
2007-05-31 19:01 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 17:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-31 17:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-31 19:03 ` Jens Axboe
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