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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cotte@de.ibm.com, hugh@veritas.com,
	neilb@suse.de, zanussi@us.ibm.com, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sendfile removal
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 18:35:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070602163553.GJ32105@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0706020836360.23741@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Sat, Jun 02 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >
> > splice() WILL return EAGAIN, but in that case it should have triggered
> > the read-ahead and thus started some IO.
> 
> That's not enough.
> 
> If the IO has already been started, splice needs to wait.

But splice doesn't know, page_cache_readahead() may not have started
anything.

> > For the from-file case, see __generic_file_splice_read(). splice does:
> > 
> >        if (!PageUptodate(page)) {
> >                /*
> >                 * If in nonblock mode then dont block on
> >                 * waiting
> >                 * for an in-flight io page
> >                 */
> >                if (flags & SPLICE_F_NONBLOCK) {
> >                        if (TestSetPageLocked(page))
> >                                break;
> >                } else
> >                        lock_page(page);
> 
> Yeah, that's just wrong.
> 
> Your suggested:
> 
> >       if ((flags & SPLICE_F_NONBLOCK) && spd.nr_pages) {
> >               if (TestSetPageLocked(page))
> >                       break;
> >       } else
> >               lock_page(page);
> > 
> > should do that - always block for the first page and potentially return
> > a partial results for the remaining pages that read-ahead kicked into
> > gear.
> 
> would work, but I suspect that for a server, returning EAGAIN once is 
> actually the best option - if it has a select() loop, and something else 
> is running, the "return EAGAIN once" actually makes tons of sense (it 
> would basically boil down to the kernel effectively saying "ok, try 
> anything else you might have pending in your queues first, if you get back 
> to me, I'll block then").

Well then the current code should work, _provided_ that we know
read-ahead kicked off the IO. Well almost, still needs a bit of
tweaking, with some knowledge of whether page_cache_readahead() actually
called into read_pages() or not.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-02 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-31 10:33 [PATCH] sendfile removal Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 10:47 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 10:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-31 10:53   ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01  4:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-01  5:41       ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01  5:50         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-01  7:22           ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-01 15:52             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-01 16:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-01 16:47                 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-01 16:53                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-02 15:02                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-02 15:01                 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-02 15:40                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-02 16:35                     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <20070603130507.GA11170@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-06-03 13:05                       ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                       ` <20070603142931.GA5916@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-06-03 14:29                         ` Fengguang Wu
     [not found]                         ` <20070604004647.GA8076@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-06-04  0:46                           ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-04  8:05                           ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                             ` <20070604112214.GA7457@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2007-06-04 11:22                               ` Fengguang Wu
2007-06-01 16:22               ` Pádraig Brady
2007-05-31 10:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-31 11:05   ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 12:26     ` Neil Brown
2007-05-31 12:27       ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01  2:44         ` [PATCH] sendfile removal (nfsd update) Neil Brown
2007-06-01  5:44           ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01  8:01             ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-01  8:15     ` [PATCH] sendfile removal Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 11:04 ` Carsten Otte
2007-05-31 11:06   ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 15:33 ` Tom Zanussi
2007-05-31 19:01   ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 17:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-05-31 17:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-05-31 19:03   ` Jens Axboe

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