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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] ufd v1 - unsequential O(1) fdmap core
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 01:47:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070604014759.aaa3b051.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070604084227.GA29446@elte.hu>

On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 10:42:27 +0200 Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> 
> * Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > If we just want some pseudo-private fd space for glibc to use then I'd 
> > have thought that the existing code could be tweaked to do that: 
> > top-down allocation, start at some high offset, etc.  But apparently 
> > there's more to it than this.
> 
> top-down has the problem of rlimits: 'where is top' is a variable 
> notion.

Well, sort-of.  rlimits affect the number of open files, not the actual fd
indices.  But whatever.

> start-at-high-offset using the existing scheme has a 'bitmap size' 
> problem: even at 2^28 the bitmap size would be 32+ MB. per process (!). 
> The bitmap could be allocated on demand, but that slows down the current 
> code, uglifies it, and it would still end up somewhere looking a bit 
> like Davide's clean new code.

OK, so the existing code doesn't support a holey bitmap.

> so, instead of trying to mesh this thing into the old fd data structures 
> which are very much centered around and tailored to the 
> continuous-allocation usage model, Davide cleanly separated it out into 
> a separate data structure that fits this independently-allocated usage 
> model well and leaves the original data structure alone. I'm strongly in 
> favor of such clean data structure separations.

a) Were IDR trees evaluated and if so, why were they rejected?

b) it's a bit disappointing that this new allocator is only usable for
   one specific application.  We have a *lot* of places in the kernel which
   want allocators of this type.  Many of them are open-coded and crappy. 
   Some use IDR trees.

   If we're going to go and add a complete new allocator, it would be
   good to position it as a library thing if poss.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-04  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-02 22:59 [patch 1/2] ufd v1 - unsequential O(1) fdmap core Davide Libenzi
2007-06-03 21:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-03 22:51   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-04  6:08     ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-04  8:05       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04  8:09         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04  8:34           ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-04  8:42             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04  8:47               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-06-04 13:05                 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-04 13:30                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-04 16:56                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-04 17:57                     ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-04 10:28             ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-04 12:55               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-04 13:25                 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-04 13:33                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-04 13:35                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-04 14:28                     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-04 14:53                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-04 14:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-04 14:27                     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-05 20:37                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-05 20:50                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-06-05 20:57                         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-05 22:29                         ` Eric Dumazet

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