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From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
To: Matt Keenan <tank.en.mate@gmail.com>
Cc: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately?
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 08:40:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706040840.21593.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4662869A.9030700@gmail.com>

On Sunday, June 3, 2007 2:15:06 Matt Keenan wrote:
> Justin Piszcz wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>> I feel, having a silent/transparent workaround is not a good idea.
> >>> With that
> >>
> >> If enough RAM is chopped off users will notice. They tend to complain
> >> when they miss RAM.  I don't like panic very much because for many
> >> users it will be a show stopper (even when they are not blessed
> >> with "quiet" boots like some distributions do)
> >>
> >> The message in dmesg could be also emphasized a bit with a little
> >> ASCII art (but no <blink> tag in there)
> >>
> >> The problem I'm more worried about is if the system will be really
> >> stable --- could it be that the memory controller is still
> >> misconfigured and cause other stability issues? (we've had such
> >> cases in the past). Also I'm not sure we can handle the case of
> >> the MTRR wrong not at the end of memory but at the hole sanely.
> >>
> >> -Andi
> >
> > So far I have been booting with mem=8832M and have run stress/loaded
> > the memory subsystem pretty good; what other tests should I run?
> >
> > It'd be nice if we could pose some sort of solution/warning for the
> > future so other people do not have to experience the same problems.
> >
> > What are the next steps?
>
> Wouldn't it be possible for the e820/MTRR set up code detect the problem
> and suggest a mem=xxxx that would fix the problem (while also
> complaining that the BIOS is broken)?

Yes, that should be fairly easy, though as Andi points out, if there are holes 
in the MTRR setup, things get a little trickier (I had an earlier patch to 
deal with this, but ended up with too many early boot issues).

Maybe what Venki suggested would be best:  just detect the condition and 
panic, with a string telling the user to use mem=xxx (we can figure that out) 
and/or upgrade their BIOS.

I'll spin a new patch to do that today.

Jesse

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-04 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-01 18:14 Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately? Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 19:10 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 19:17   ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 19:19   ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 19:21     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 21:14   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 20:19     ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 20:24       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 20:26         ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 21:07     ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 21:19       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 21:35         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 21:41         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-02  1:05           ` Venki Pallipadi
2007-06-02  1:15             ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-02  8:43               ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-02  9:22             ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-02 20:11               ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-03  9:15                 ` Matt Keenan
2007-06-04 15:40                   ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2007-06-04 15:48                     ` Ray Lee
2007-06-04 15:49                       ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-04 16:01                         ` Ray Lee
2007-06-04 15:54                       ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-04 18:24                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 18:13           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-04 18:22             ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-04 19:08               ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-04 19:17               ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-04 19:18               ` Alan Cox
2007-06-04 21:01                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-05  0:59                   ` Yinghai Lu
2007-06-05  1:38                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-05  9:46                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-05 13:18                         ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-05 17:20                         ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-07  8:47                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 19:23               ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 19:24                 ` Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately? II Andi Kleen
2007-06-05  0:54                 ` Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately? Yinghai Lu

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