From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
To: Matt Keenan <tank.en.mate@gmail.com>
Cc: Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Venki Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately?
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 08:40:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706040840.21593.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4662869A.9030700@gmail.com>
On Sunday, June 3, 2007 2:15:06 Matt Keenan wrote:
> Justin Piszcz wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>> I feel, having a silent/transparent workaround is not a good idea.
> >>> With that
> >>
> >> If enough RAM is chopped off users will notice. They tend to complain
> >> when they miss RAM. I don't like panic very much because for many
> >> users it will be a show stopper (even when they are not blessed
> >> with "quiet" boots like some distributions do)
> >>
> >> The message in dmesg could be also emphasized a bit with a little
> >> ASCII art (but no <blink> tag in there)
> >>
> >> The problem I'm more worried about is if the system will be really
> >> stable --- could it be that the memory controller is still
> >> misconfigured and cause other stability issues? (we've had such
> >> cases in the past). Also I'm not sure we can handle the case of
> >> the MTRR wrong not at the end of memory but at the hole sanely.
> >>
> >> -Andi
> >
> > So far I have been booting with mem=8832M and have run stress/loaded
> > the memory subsystem pretty good; what other tests should I run?
> >
> > It'd be nice if we could pose some sort of solution/warning for the
> > future so other people do not have to experience the same problems.
> >
> > What are the next steps?
>
> Wouldn't it be possible for the e820/MTRR set up code detect the problem
> and suggest a mem=xxxx that would fix the problem (while also
> complaining that the BIOS is broken)?
Yes, that should be fairly easy, though as Andi points out, if there are holes
in the MTRR setup, things get a little trickier (I had an earlier patch to
deal with this, but ended up with too many early boot issues).
Maybe what Venki suggested would be best: just detect the condition and
panic, with a string telling the user to use mem=xxx (we can figure that out)
and/or upgrade their BIOS.
I'll spin a new patch to do that today.
Jesse
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-04 15:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-01 18:14 Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately? Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 19:10 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 19:17 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 19:19 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 19:21 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 21:14 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 20:19 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 20:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 20:26 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-01 21:07 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 21:19 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 21:35 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-01 21:41 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-02 1:05 ` Venki Pallipadi
2007-06-02 1:15 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-02 8:43 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-02 9:22 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-02 20:11 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-03 9:15 ` Matt Keenan
2007-06-04 15:40 ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2007-06-04 15:48 ` Ray Lee
2007-06-04 15:49 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-04 16:01 ` Ray Lee
2007-06-04 15:54 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-04 18:24 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 18:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-04 18:22 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-04 19:08 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-04 19:17 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-04 19:18 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-04 21:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-05 0:59 ` Yinghai Lu
2007-06-05 1:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-06-05 9:46 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-05 13:18 ` Justin Piszcz
2007-06-05 17:20 ` Jesse Barnes
2007-06-07 8:47 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 19:23 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 19:24 ` Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately? II Andi Kleen
2007-06-05 0:54 ` Intel's response Linux/MTRR/8GB Memory Support / Why doesn't the kernel realize the BIOS has problems and re-map appropriately? Yinghai Lu
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