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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Nicholas Mc Guire <mcguire@lzu.edu.cn>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 9/9] Scheduler profiling - Use conditional calls
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:20:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070604222010.GA1169@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070531223322.GC7217@one.firstfloor.org>

* Andi Kleen (andi@firstfloor.org) wrote:
> > I see your point, but there is a level of control on the branch I would
> > lack by doing so: the ability to put the call in either the if or else
> > branch. It is an optimization on i386.
> 
> What does it optimize exactly?
> 

Nicholas McGuire told me that the non common cases should be put in
else branches of if statements for i386. At the time, I did a quick test
that correlated what he said, but I seem to be unable to reproduce this
behavior now (maybe my code snippet is too simple?): I will then assume
that the likely/unlikely (builtin expects) tells everything that is
needed to gcc until further notice. Therefore, we can use the form :

if (cond_call(var)), as you proposed.

> > Also, I live in the expectation that, someday, the gcc guys will be nice
> > enough to add some kind of support for a nop-based jump that would
> > require code patching to put a jump instead. If it ever happens, my
> > macro could evolve into this for newer compiler versions, which I could
> > not do with the if() statement you are proposing.
> 
> If that ever happens we couldn't use it anyways because Linux still
> has to support old compilers for a long time. And when those are dropped the
> code could be updated.
> 

Agreed.

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-04 22:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-30 14:00 [patch 0/9] Conditional Calls - for 2.6.22-rc2-mm1 Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 1/9] Conditional Calls - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:32   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 16:34     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 13:47   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-05 18:40     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-04 19:01   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-13 15:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-13 21:51       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-14 16:02         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-14 21:06           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-20 21:59             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-21 13:00               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-06-21 13:55                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 2/9] Conditional Calls - Hash Table Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:32   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 13:42   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 16:08     ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-01 16:46       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-01 17:07         ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-01 17:45           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 18:06             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-01 18:49               ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-01 19:35               ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-01 20:33                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-01 20:44                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 22:26                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-01 18:03           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 3/9] Conditional Calls - Non Optimized Architectures Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 4/9] Conditional Calls - Add kconfig menus Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 5/9] Conditional Calls - i386 Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 13:54   ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-05 19:02     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 6/9] Conditional Calls - PowerPC Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 7/9] Conditional Calls - Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 8/9] F00F bug fixup for i386 - use conditional calls Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:33   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 21:07     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 21:21       ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 21:38         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 14:00 ` [patch 9/9] Scheduler profiling - Use " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:34   ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-01 15:54     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-06-01 16:19       ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-01 16:33         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 20:59   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-31 21:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 23:41       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-04 22:20         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-30 21:44   ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-31 21:36     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 13:39   ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-31 22:07     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-31 22:33       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 22:20         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
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2007-05-29 18:33 [patch 0/9] Conditional Calls Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-05-29 18:34 ` [patch 9/9] Scheduler profiling - Use conditional calls Mathieu Desnoyers

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