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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	mroos@linux.ee, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: libata & no PCI: dma_[un]map_single undefined
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:18:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070605151847.GD2572@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070605151104.GG31565@havoc.gtf.org>

On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:11:04AM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 03:59:46PM +0100, Russell King wrote:
> > It's the fact that I _am_ CC'd on replies, so I get one message from LKML
> > one from the original poster, maybe one via another mailing list if it's
> > also copied there.  Add that in to the mix of all the other mail hitting
> > my MTA and the probability for the machine to exhaust it's limited VM is
> > very high.
> 
> This is an utterly ridiculous argument.  You are subscribed to LKML,
> with a message size limit of 400K.  "replies to rmk" are clearly lost
> in the noise compared to the rest of the list traffic.

Shrug, that's your opinion.  My real life experience is some what
different - I'm the one admin'ing these machines so I can see what's
going on.

> > Give me a way to stop people CC'ing me on replies and I'll happily remove
> > the header.  Unfortunately there isn't, so I can't.
> 
> So by fiat, you decide that gives you the right to override OTHER
> PEOPLE'S personal preferences?  Why are you so much more important
> to a thread than everyone else?

Meanwhile you decide that you have a right over _MY_ personal preferences.
It's the same argument I'm afraid, just a different point of view.  If
_you_ do not wish to abide by the header then turn off that feature in
your mailer.  That's _your_ preference and one which _you_ can set.

> If you are unwilling to fix the problem and work within existing
> community email standards, I think it would be fair to ask vger
> postmaster to start excising Mail-Followup-To headers.

Well, that will leave me with _no_ _choice_ but to arrange for the
SMTP MAIL FROM from others to receive a 550 error code to remove
the problem.  Is that really what you'd like me to do?

> You are NOT more important that everyone else.

That's not the issue.

Since it's obvious that you don't accept my argument, it's pointless
discussing it further; there's nothing I can realistically do at this
end to resolve the issue and still remain part of this community.

I see no point in further discussion of this issue if such bigotry is
going to continue; any further responses on this topic will not receive
any replies from me.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-05 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-03 20:23 libata & no PCI: dma_[un]map_single undefined Meelis Roos
2007-06-04  0:40 ` David Miller
2007-06-04  7:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-04 17:19     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-05 11:22       ` Alan Cox
2007-06-05 13:56         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-05 14:17           ` Russell King
2007-06-05 14:25             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-05 14:35             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-05 14:51               ` Russell King
2007-06-05 14:56                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-05 14:59                   ` Russell King
2007-06-05 15:11                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-05 15:18                       ` Russell King [this message]
2007-06-05 15:21                         ` Russell King
2007-06-05 19:27                           ` David Miller
2007-06-05 21:25                             ` Russell King
2007-06-05 21:38                               ` Russell King
2007-06-05 21:48                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-05 22:03                                   ` Russell King
2007-06-05 22:16                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-06  0:25                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-05 15:41                         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-06-05 15:45                           ` Russell King
2007-06-05 19:27                         ` David Miller
2007-06-05 19:24                       ` David Miller
2007-06-05 21:10                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-05 19:23                     ` David Miller
2007-06-05 21:20                       ` Russell King
2007-06-05 15:50             ` Alan Cox
2007-06-05 15:52               ` Russell King
2007-06-04  7:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-06-04 13:30   ` Alan Cox
2007-06-04 21:22     ` David Miller
2007-06-05  0:56       ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-05 11:12         ` Alan Cox

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