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From: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
	balbir@in.ibm.com, rohitseth@google.com, haveblue@us.ibm.com,
	xemul@sw.ru, dev@sw.ru, containers@lists.osdl.org,
	devel@openvz.org, ebiederm@xmission.com, mbligh@google.com,
	cpw@sgi.com, serue@us.ibm.com, menage@google.com,
	svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [PATCH 00/10] Containers(V10): Generic Process Containers
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 17:46:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070606174609.bfa01446.pj@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070607000559.GA19529@sergelap.austin.ibm.com>

> I suppose as a cleaner alternative we could 
> add a container_subsys->inherit_defaults() handler, to be called at
> container_clone(), and for cpusets this would set cpus and mems to
> the parent values - sibling exclusive values.  If that comes to nothing,
> then the attach_task() is still refused, and the unshare() or clone()
> fails, but this time with good reason.

Unfortunately, I haven't spent the time I should thinking about
container cloning, namespaces and such.

I don't know, for the workloads that matter to me, when, how or
if this container cloning will be used.

I'm tempted to suggest the following.

First, I am assuming that the classic method of creating cpuset
children will still work, such as the following (which can fail
for certain combinations of exclusive cpus or mems):
	cd /dev/cpuset/foobar
	mkdir foochild
	cp cpus foochild
	cp mems foochild
	echo $$ > foochild/tasks

Second, given that, how about you fail the unshare() or clone()
anytime that the instance to be cloned has any sibling cpusets
with any exclusive flags set.

The exclusive property is not really on friendly terms with cloning.

Now if the above classic code must be encoded using cloning under
the covers, then we've got problems, probably more problems than
just this.

-- 
                  I won't rest till it's the best ...
                  Programmer, Linux Scalability
                  Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com> 1.925.600.0401

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-07  0:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-29 13:01 [PATCH 00/10] Containers(V10): Generic Process Containers menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 01/10] Containers(V10): Basic container framework menage
2007-05-30  7:15   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-30  7:15   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-30 14:02     ` Paul Menage
2007-05-30 16:00       ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-13 10:17   ` Dhaval Giani
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 02/10] Containers(V10): Example CPU accounting subsystem menage
2007-05-30  7:16   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 03/10] Containers(V10): Add tasks file interface menage
2007-06-07 14:00   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-06-07 17:12     ` Paul Menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 04/10] Containers(V10): Add fork/exit hooks menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 05/10] Containers(V10): Add container_clone() interface menage
2007-05-30  7:16   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 19:56     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 06/10] Containers(V10): Add procfs interface menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 07/10] Containers(V10): Make cpusets a client of containers menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 08/10] Containers(V10): Share css_group arrays between tasks with same container memberships menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 09/10] Containers(V10): Simple debug info subsystem menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 10/10] Containers(V10): Support for automatic userspace release agents menage
2007-05-30  7:14 ` [PATCH 00/10] Containers(V10): Generic Process Containers Andrew Morton
2007-05-30  7:39   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-28 21:27     ` Paul Menage
2007-06-28 22:13       ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-30  8:09   ` Balbir Singh
2007-05-30  9:02     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-05-30  9:02       ` Balbir Singh
2007-05-30 10:48 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-06-04 19:14 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-04 19:31   ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-04 20:30     ` Paul Menage
2007-06-04 20:37       ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-04 20:41       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-04 21:05         ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-06 22:39           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-06 22:43             ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-07  0:05               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-07  0:46                 ` Paul Jackson [this message]
2007-06-07 18:01                   ` [ckrm-tech] " Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-07 19:21                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-07 20:17                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-07 22:01                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-08 14:32                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-08 15:55                             ` Paul Menage
2007-06-08 16:08                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-08 16:16                                 ` Paul Menage
2007-06-08 18:08                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-08 18:13                                     ` Paul Menage
2007-06-08 19:42                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-08 20:05                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-08 17:37                             ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-04 20:32   ` Paul Menage
2007-06-04 20:51     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-04 20:56       ` Paul Menage
2007-06-04 21:11         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-04 21:16           ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-04 21:09       ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson

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