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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@insightbb.com>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@jikos.cz>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.22-rc[23]: blinking capslock led, stuck keys?
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:42:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706120142.13173.dtor@insightbb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070604205701.GD2711@elf.ucw.cz>

On Monday 04 June 2007 16:57, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Mon 2007-06-04 13:46:45, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On 6/4/07, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br> wrote:
> > >On Mon, 04 Jun 2007, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > >> >...but I'm not quite sure it is a buggy keyboard. It happens _way_ too
> > >> >often. Launch the line above and try to do some typing...
> > >>
> > >> This used to work fine on my box last time I tried it (the switch
> > >> itself is offloaded to a keventd and shoud not get in the way) but
> > >> then they push all kind of ACPI/SMM crap together with KBC so who
> > >> knows... I should try it again when I get home.
> > >
> > >Err... in laptops, almost *always* the KDC is emulated by the embedded
> > >controller, so I bet you're right on the money, there.  It is not "a buggy
> > >KDC", it is a buggy EC firmware and/or buggy SMBIOS which is a lot more
> > >common.
> > >
> > >And DoS'ing the EC is very high on the Don't Do That list on a laptop.  If
> > >the X60 is only losing keypresses and producing no bigger fireworks, that's
> > >outstanding behavior (as far as I trust ThinkPad firmware, anyway).
> > >
> > >So please throttle anything that might access the KDC way too much (as
> > >compared to normal keyboard operation by an user).
> > 
> > What would be reasonable throttling? Once every 100 ms?
> 
> Well... this thread began with me having problems with leds blinking
> once per ten seconds. I do not think throttling is going to help.

For what it worth I finally tried that setleds loop on my laptop. I am
not getting any lost keypresses/releases. But then I don't have EC
(or at least it is not exported via ACPI). This is an old Dell notebook.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-12  5:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-04 11:24 2.6.22-rc[23]: blinking capslock led, stuck keys? Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 12:08 ` Éric Piel
2007-06-04 12:35 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-04 13:09   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 13:12     ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-04 13:36       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 13:38         ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-04 13:43       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 13:54         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 14:02           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-04 14:13             ` thinkpad testers wanted (was Re: 2.6.22-rc[23]: blinking capslock led, stuck keys?) Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 15:06               ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-06-04 15:10                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 16:20                   ` Björn Steinbrink
2007-06-04 15:11               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-06-04 15:18               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-04 20:55                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 16:40               ` Michael Tokarev
2007-06-04 16:34             ` 2.6.22-rc[23]: blinking capslock led, stuck keys? Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-06-04 17:46               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-04 20:57                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-12  5:42                   ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2007-06-12 23:35                     ` Indan Zupancic
2007-06-13  8:18                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-13 14:09                         ` Indan Zupancic
2007-06-15  5:41                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-16  2:04                             ` Indan Zupancic
2007-06-16  3:34                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-16 11:54                                 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-06-16 15:58                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-06-04 18:04               ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-04 15:10       ` Indan Zupancic
2007-06-04 15:13         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 12:35 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-06-04 12:38   ` Jiri Kosina
2007-06-04 14:43     ` Indan Zupancic
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2007-06-06 11:26             ` Bodo Eggert

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