public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: Rules on how to use sysfs in userspace programs
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:46:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706221746.03298.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070608203637.GA9259@kroah.com>

On Friday 08 June 2007 16:36:37 Greg KH wrote:
> Over time there have been a number of problems when sysfs has changed in
> "unexpected" ways.  Here's a document that Kay wrote a while ago that
> I'd like to add to the kernel Documentation directory to help userspace
> programmers out.
>
> Any comments or critique of this is greatly appreciated.

Still catching up from my laptop dying.

I find the explanation of /sys/subsystem almost unintelligible.  What will the 
new one actually look like?

If I want to find all block devices in the system, it looks like I should now 
look at /sys/subsystem/block.  (And "subsystem" is not a variable here but 
the actual directory name?  I presume it moved for Feng Shui reasons.)  

If I want to find char devices, where do I look?  /sys/subsystem...  char?  
class?  Is a char device now anything under /sys/subsystem that is _not_ 
in /sys/subsystem/block?  (Minus bus devices?)  Is there a specific directory 
for these?

This document is highly polluted with what NOT to do.  I'm looking for a 
clear "what SHOULD I do", and it takes some wading to find it.  (Historical 
cruft about what not to do is potentially a separate document, it's not 
useful for people learning this stuff now who weren't playing with the legacy 
mechanisms.)  The description of /sys/subsystem spends so much time talking 
about old legacy issues it never gives a clear description of the new way of 
doing things, which is theoretically what this document is about...

Rob
-- 
"One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code."
  - Ken Thompson.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-22 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-08 20:36 Rules on how to use sysfs in userspace programs Greg KH
2007-06-09  7:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-09 12:32 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2007-06-09 17:27   ` Kay Sievers
2007-06-09 20:08 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-06-10 14:02 ` Theodore Tso
2007-06-10 16:56   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-10 20:55     ` Kay Sievers
2007-06-22 21:46 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2007-06-23 12:49   ` Kay Sievers
2007-06-24  1:31     ` Rob Landley
2007-06-24 11:03       ` Kay Sievers
2007-06-24 19:24         ` Rob Landley
2007-06-25 14:57           ` Kay Sievers
2007-06-25 18:14             ` Rob Landley

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=200706221746.03298.rob@landley.net \
    --to=rob@landley.net \
    --cc=greg@kroah.com \
    --cc=kay.sievers@vrfy.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox