From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: "Dmitry Torokhov" <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Indan Zupancic" <indan@nul.nu>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Stephen Hemminger" <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bwalle@suse.de
Subject: Re: blink driver power saving
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:39:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707021439.27357.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d5000707020531y43d41b6fl46e05c8343dbbeae@mail.gmail.com>
> > Perhaps one of you geniuses who all hate it can find a better way to
> > solve the "video output dead after kexec; but need visual feedback to the user
> > while crash dumping" problem. I'm waiting for your patches.
> >
>
> I don't don't like it ;) Unfortunately too many people end up enabling
Yes that's pretty weird. I admit I hadn't expected
that problem. blink is equivalent to "annoy me" and it
is a mystery why so many people should willingly ask their computer to
annoy them.
Or perhaps they update their configs with yes | make oldconfig?
User psychology can be mysterious.
I wonder if the kernel offered a CONFIG_FORMAT_FILESYSTEMS_AT_BOOT
how many people would enable that @) Might be an interesting experiment
for next April.
> it and having issues with their keyboards.
Forcing a suitable slow rate should fix that shouldn't it? We need
that anyways to stop the "setleds DOS".
> Can we have it depend on
> DEBUG_KERNEL?
Yes that would be probably a good idea; even though it is technically
not correct: the debug kernel doesn't try to debug itself. But anyways,
it's probably the best place.
> And probably KEXEC as well?
The kcrash kernel doesn't necessarily need to have kexec enabled by
itself.
> Another option would be for it not use panic_blink. Do your kexec
> kernels have atkbd support enabled? You could write an new "blink"
> input handler that would latch to keyboards supporting leds and blink
> by sending EV_LED events.
Yes that would be probably a better implementation. Also hook something
for USB keyboards. iirc Bernhard Walle (cc'ed) was looking at that.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-02 12:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-02 11:43 blink driver power saving Indan Zupancic
2007-07-02 11:51 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-02 12:29 ` Indan Zupancic
2007-07-02 12:31 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-02 12:39 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-07-02 12:56 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-02 13:42 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-02 13:43 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-02 20:19 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-04 21:47 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-05 5:25 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-02 23:08 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-03 5:42 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-04 21:40 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-04 21:57 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-04 22:11 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-05 5:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-12 9:10 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13 0:42 ` Jiri Kosina
2007-07-04 22:32 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-04 22:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-04 22:59 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.0.98.0707041610530.9434@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2007-07-04 23:20 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-03 7:12 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-04 19:37 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-05 20:30 ` Bill Davidsen
[not found] <8CaWr-2o4-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <8Cfjl-PJ-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <8CfW1-1TX-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <8ChEo-4yy-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-07-02 13:11 ` Bodo Eggert
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-01 16:50 Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-01 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-01 21:29 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-01 22:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-01 23:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-02 15:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-02 16:59 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-02 17:50 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-07-02 19:03 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-02 19:08 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-02 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-01 21:26 ` Andi Kleen
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