From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759154AbXGCHNQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jul 2007 03:13:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759087AbXGCHMo (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jul 2007 03:12:44 -0400 Received: from mail.suse.de ([195.135.220.2]:45284 "EHLO mx1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756870AbXGCHMn (ORCPT ); Tue, 3 Jul 2007 03:12:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:12:37 +0200 From: Bernhard Walle To: Pavel Machek Cc: Andi Kleen , Dmitry Torokhov , Indan Zupancic , Linus Torvalds , Stephen Hemminger , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: blink driver power saving Message-ID: <20070703071237.GA17476@suse.de> Mail-Followup-To: Pavel Machek , Andi Kleen , Dmitry Torokhov , Indan Zupancic , Linus Torvalds , Stephen Hemminger , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <51563.81.207.0.53.1183376603.squirrel@secure.samage.net> <200707021351.57965.ak@suse.de> <200707021439.27357.ak@suse.de> <20070702230827.GA9071@elf.ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070702230827.GA9071@elf.ucw.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Pavel Machek [2007-07-03 01:08]: > On Mon 2007-07-02 14:39:27, Andi Kleen wrote: > > > > > > Perhaps one of you geniuses who all hate it can find a better way to > > > > solve the "video output dead after kexec; but need visual feedback to the user > > > > while crash dumping" problem. I'm waiting for your patches. > > > > > > > > > > I don't don't like it ;) Unfortunately too many people end up enabling > > > > Yes that's pretty weird. I admit I hadn't expected > > that problem. blink is equivalent to "annoy me" and it > > is a mystery why so many people should willingly ask their computer to > > annoy them. > > tristate "Keyboard blink driver" > > ...drivers are not expected to act on their own. I was expecting to > get nice /sys/class/led* interface to my keyboard leds. What's the benefit of such an interface? If you're able to trigger keyboard LEDs via that interface, you're also able to use the ioctl() on /dev/console. I think the intention of the blink driver was to have a *early* blink, i.e. before initrd (and on systems without intrd, before the first init script runs). Thanks, Bernhard