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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 06/10] Immediate Value - i386 Optimization
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:43:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070703204347.GA8876@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <468AAF1F.6010909@zytor.com>

* H. Peter Anvin (hpa@zytor.com) wrote:
> Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > I understand your concern. If you find a way to let the code be compiled
> > by gcc, put at the end of the functions (never being a branch target)
> > and then, dynamically, get the address of the branch instruction and
> > patch it, all that in cooperation with gcc, I would be glad to hear from
> > it. What I found is that gcc lets us do anything that touches
> > variables/registers in an inline assembly, but does not permit to place
> > branch instructions ourselves; it does not expect the execution flow to
> > be changed in inline asms.
> > 
> 
> I believe this is correct.  It probably would require requesting a gcc
> builtin, which might be worthwhile to do if we
> 
> > <branch site>
> >   77:   b8 00 00 00 00          mov    $0x0,%eax
> >   7c:   85 c0                   test   %eax,%eax
> >   7e:   0f 85 16 03 00 00       jne    39a <schedule+0x39a>
> >     here, we just loaded 0 in eax (movl used to make sure we populate the
> >     whole register so we do not stall the pipeline)
> >     When we activate the site,
> >     line 77 becomes: b8 01 00 00 00    mov    $0x1,%eax
> > </branch site>
> 
> One could, though, use an indirect jump to achieve, if not as good, at
> least most of the effect:
> 
> 	movl	$<patchable>,<reg>
> 	jmp	*<reg>
> 

Using a jmp *<reg> will instruct gcc not to inline inline functions and
restrict loop unrolling (but the latter is not used in the linux
kernel). We would have to compute different $<patchable> for every site
generated by putting an immediate in an inline function.

> Some x86 cores will be able to detect the movl...jmp forwarding, and
> collapse it into a known branch target; however, on the ones that can't,
> it might be worse, since one would have to rely on the indirect branch
> predictor.
> 
> This would, however, provide infrastructure that could be combined with
> a future gcc builtin.
> 

If we can change the compiler, here is what we could do:

Tell GCC to put NOPs that could be altered by a branch alternative to
some specified code. We should be able to get the instruction pointers
(think of inlines) to these nop/branch instructions so we can change
them dynamically.

Something like:

immediate_t myfunc_cond;

inline myfunction(void) {
  static void *insn;   /* pointer to nops/branch instruction */
  static void *target_inactive, *target_active;

  __builtin_polymorphic_if(&insn, &myfunc_cond) {
    /* Do something */
  } else {
    ...
  }
}

I could then save all the insns into my immediate value section and
later activate them by looking up all of those who refer to myfunc_cond.

The default behavior would be to branch to the target_inactive, and we
could change insn to jump to target_active dynamically.

Note that we should align the jump instruction so the address could be
changed atomically in the general case (on x86 and x86_64, we have to
use an int3 bypass anyway, so we don't really care).

Also, we should fine a way to let gcc tell us what type of jump it had
to use depending on how far the target of the branch is.

I suspect this would be inherently tricky. If someone is ready to do
this and tells me "yes, it will be there in 1 month", I am more than
ready to switch my markers to this and help, but since the core of my
work is kernel tracing, I don't have the time nor the ressources to
tackle this problem.

In the event that someone answers "we'll do this in the following 3
years", I might consider to change the if (immediate(var)) into an
immediate_if (var) so we can later proceed to the change with simple
ifdefs without rewriting all the kernel code that would use it.

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-03 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-03 16:40 [patch 00/10] Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 01/10] Immediate values - Global modules list and module mutex Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 02/10] Immediate Value - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 03/10] Immediate Values - Non Optimized Architectures Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 04/10] Immediate Value - Add kconfig menus Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 05/10] Immediate Values - kprobe header fix Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 06/10] Immediate Value - i386 Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 18:45   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 19:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 20:18       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 20:37         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-03 21:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 23:10           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-03 20:43         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-07-03 21:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 07/10] Immediate Value - PowerPC Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 08/10] Immediate Value - Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 09/10] F00F bug fixup for i386 - use immediate values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-04 20:43   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 10/10] Scheduler profiling - Use " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 18:11   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-03 18:57     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-04 14:23       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-04 20:31       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-05 20:21       ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-05 20:29         ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-05 20:41           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 11:44         ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 17:50           ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-06 20:03             ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 20:57               ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-06 21:03                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  1:50             ` [patch 10/10] *Tests* " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  6:08               ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-11  5:02                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 22:14           ` [patch 10/10] " Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-06 23:28             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-06 23:38               ` Dave Jones
2007-07-07  0:10                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 15:45                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-07-07 17:01                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 17:20                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-07 17:59                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 17:55                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-07-06 23:43               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  2:25                 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07  2:35                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07  4:03                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07  5:02                       ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-04 20:35   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-04 22:41     ` Andi Kleen

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