From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760159AbXGFJbT (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 05:31:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756706AbXGFJbM (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 05:31:12 -0400 Received: from smtp-out001.kontent.com ([81.88.40.215]:46183 "EHLO smtp-out.kontent.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755187AbXGFJbM (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Jul 2007 05:31:12 -0400 From: Oliver Neukum To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:31:07 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Alan Stern , Miklos Szeredi , pavel@ucw.cz, paulus@samba.org, johannes@sipsolutions.net, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org References: <200707060913.24131.rjw@sisk.pl> <1183712354.3388.126.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1183712354.3388.126.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200707061131.08475.oliver@neukum.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am Freitag, 6. Juli 2007 schrieb Benjamin Herrenschmidt: > On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 09:13 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > The only reason (I know of) why we don't handle uninterruptible tasks in the > > freezer is that we're afraid of the suspend process deadlocking with an > > uninterruptible task holding a lock, but AFAICS the probability of such an > > event is extremely small. > > What would deadlock specifically ? One of the drivers trying to acquire > that lock ? It would be a driver bug then. Your driver's write method looks like: mutex_lock(); poke_some_hardware(); wait_event_uninterruptible(); //for result res = evaluate_result(); mutex_unlock(); return res; If you put a task into the refrigerator at wait_event_interruptible() you will deadlock if you need this lock for the driver to go to suspend. The suspend method then must not take the lock _and_ it must be aware that there may be an ongoing operation. Regards Oliver