From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mbligh@google.com
Subject: Re: [patch 10/10] Scheduler profiling - Use immediate values
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 19:43:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070706234315.GA19804@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070706232843.GT3492@stusta.de>
* Adrian Bunk (bunk@stusta.de) wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 06:14:10PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
> > On 07/06/2007 07:44 AM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > I think the optimization is a good idea, although i dislike it
> > > that it is complicated for the dynamic markers. If it was just
> > > static it would be much simpler.
> >
> > Another thing to consider is that there might be hundreds of these
> > probes/tracepoints active in an instrumented kernel. The overhead
> > adds up fast, so the gain may be worth all the pain.
>
> Only if you want to squeeze the last bit of performance out of
> _debugging_ functionality.
>
> You avoid all the pain if you simply don't use debugging functionality
> on production systems.
>
Adrian,
Please have a look at my markers posts, especially:
http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0707.0/0669.html
And also look into OLS 2007 proceedings for Martin Bligh's paper on
Debugging Google sized clusters. It basically makes the case for adding
functionnality to debug _user space_ problems on production systems that
can be turned on dynamically.
Mathieu
> cu
> Adrian
>
> --
>
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> of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
> "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-03 16:40 [patch 00/10] Immediate Values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 01/10] Immediate values - Global modules list and module mutex Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 02/10] Immediate Value - Architecture Independent Code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 03/10] Immediate Values - Non Optimized Architectures Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 04/10] Immediate Value - Add kconfig menus Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 05/10] Immediate Values - kprobe header fix Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 06/10] Immediate Value - i386 Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 18:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 20:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 20:37 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-03 21:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 23:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-03 20:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 21:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 07/10] Immediate Value - PowerPC Optimization Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 08/10] Immediate Value - Documentation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 09/10] F00F bug fixup for i386 - use immediate values Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-04 20:43 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-03 16:40 ` [patch 10/10] Scheduler profiling - Use " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-03 18:11 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-03 18:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-04 14:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-04 20:31 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-05 20:21 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-05 20:29 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-05 20:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 11:44 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 17:50 ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-06 20:03 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 20:57 ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-06 21:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07 1:50 ` [patch 10/10] *Tests* " Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07 6:08 ` Li, Tong N
2007-07-11 5:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 22:14 ` [patch 10/10] " Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-06 23:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-06 23:38 ` Dave Jones
2007-07-07 0:10 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 15:45 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-07-07 17:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 17:20 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-07 17:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 17:55 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-07-06 23:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-07-07 2:25 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 2:35 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-07 4:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-07 5:02 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-04 20:35 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-07-04 22:41 ` Andi Kleen
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2007-07-05 15:23 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-07-05 15:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 21:08 ` Adrian Bunk
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