From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT (aka software PAGE_SIZE)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:25:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070707102502.GH29213@v2.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18063.14949.850984.791608@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
On Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 05:01:57PM +1000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> Andrea Arcangeli writes:
>
> > So my whole idea is to once and for all to decuple the size of the
> > pte-entry (4k on x86/amd64) with the page allocator granularity. The
> > HARD_PAGE_SHIFT will be 4k still, the common code PAGE_SIZE will be
> > variable and configurable at compile time with CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT.
>
> How does the page cache work with your scheme? For example if I have
> 1000 1kB files cached in the page cache, and 16k PAGE_SIZE, does that
> use up 4M, or 16M?
It uses 16M of course. Like I said before:
This whole issue is really a pure tradeoff between memory consumption
and I/O and CPU performance (and for the dvd-ram and xfs also a way to
The CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT allows you to ship a "monster" kernel for db
usage with hundred gigs of ram, with 64k page size and 64k blocksize,
getting the whole advantages. We of course must make sure that
CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT=12 doesn't provide any slowdown.
Then us mere mortals will enjoy running with 8k page size too, with
our 2-4G of ram. I used 8k page size with an alpha workstation back in
2000 and I didn't feel any substantial ram waste, I had about 2G of
ram. Ok, now the kernel is larger, but even git learnt using packs ;)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-07 10:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-06 22:26 RFC: CONFIG_PAGE_SHIFT (aka software PAGE_SIZE) Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-06 23:33 ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-06 23:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-17 17:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-17 19:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-18 13:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-18 16:34 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-18 23:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-19 0:53 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-24 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-25 3:20 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-25 14:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-25 17:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-07-07 1:36 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-07 1:47 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-07 10:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-07 7:01 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-07 10:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2007-07-07 18:53 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-07 20:34 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-08 9:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-08 23:20 ` David Chinner
2007-07-10 10:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-12 0:12 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 11:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-12 14:44 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 16:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-12 16:34 ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-13 7:13 ` David Chinner
2007-07-13 14:08 ` Dave Kleikamp
2007-07-13 14:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2007-07-16 0:27 ` David Chinner
2007-07-12 17:53 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-13 1:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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