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From: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.22-rc6(mm1) Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer	dereference - git-bisect result
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:19:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070708181954.GH21668@ftp.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <469121DA.6030600@redhat.com>

On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 10:41:46AM -0700, Ulrich Drepper wrote:
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> Al Viro wrote:
> > Like hell.  At the very least you want it to be opened for write.
> > And even that is dubious, since "process has write access to file"
> > is not quite the same thing as "somebody had given the process a
> > descriptor opened for write".
> 
> But the real permissions tests are performed in notify_change.  I think
> all this is consistent with how, for instance, fchmod works.  The
> additional tests in fchmod which aren't here (IS_RDONLY and IS_APPEND)
> would also apply to the case where a file name is given.  So, either the
> code was inconsistent already are these tests are really not needed.

Yes, it's either that, or you haven't bothered to read what it really
does.  ATTR_UID et.al. are checked in inode_change_ok().  So is
ATTR_MTIME_SET (only owner can explicitly set timestamps).  ATTR_MTIME
is not and *should* *not* be checked there.  Exactly because it's
done as a side effect of many operations with access control of their
own and nothing that could be pushed down into notify_change() path.
Think of e.g. write(2) - by the time you get to notify_change(), you
don't even have a file descriptor.  Just the dentry and process writing
to file doesn't have to have *any* permissions on it.

Hell, _try_ it.  Build the kernel with your patch and without it.
Call utimes() with NULL second argument on a file you have no write
access to.  See if the timestamps change.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-08 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-08  5:14 2.6.22-rc6-mm1-cfs-v19 Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference (reproducable) Markus Trippelsdorf
2007-07-08  8:20 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-08 10:09   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2007-07-08 15:28     ` 2.6.22-rc6(mm1) Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference - git-bisect result Markus Trippelsdorf
2007-07-08 17:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-08 17:06       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-07-08 17:33         ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2007-07-08 17:34         ` Al Viro
2007-07-08 17:41           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-07-08 18:12             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-08 18:24               ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-07-08 18:31                 ` Al Viro
2007-07-08 18:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-08 18:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-08 18:34                 ` Al Viro
2007-07-08 18:38                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-08 18:51                   ` Al Viro
2007-07-08 19:00                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-08 19:26                       ` Al Viro
2007-07-08 18:19             ` Al Viro [this message]
2007-07-09 12:40 ` 2.6.22-rc6-mm1-cfs-v19 Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference (reproducable) Lenar Lõhmus

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