From: sukadev@us.ibm.com
To: Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/16] Pid namespaces
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:26:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070710042619.GC15214@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <468DF6F7.1010906@openvz.org>
I am not able to find a specific patch that this might be in,
but what happens when the child-reaper of a container exits ?
Do you terminate all processes in the container ? I thought
that was discussed earlier and the consensus was to terminate
all processes in that container and its subordinate containers.
Is that not the case now ?
Suka
Pavel Emelianov [xemul@openvz.org] wrote:
| This is "submition for inclusion" of hierarchical, not kconfig
| configurable, zero overheaded ;) pid namespaces.
|
| The overall idea is the following:
|
| The namespace are organized as a tree - once a task is cloned
| with CLONE_NEWPIDS (yes, I've also switched to it :) the new
| namespace becomes the parent's child and tasks living in the
| parent namespace see the tasks from the new one. The numerical
| ids are used on the kernel-user boundary, i.e. when we export
| pid to user we show the id, that should be used to address the
| task in question from the namespace we're exporting this id to.
|
| The main difference from Suka's patches are the following:
|
| 0. Suka's patches change the kernel/pid.c code too heavy.
| This set keeps the kernel code look like it was without
| the patches. However, this is a minor issue. The major is:
|
| 1. Suka's approach is to remove the notion of the task's
| numerical pid from the kernel at all. The numbers are
| used on the kernel-user boundary or within the kernel but
| with the namespace this nr belongs to. This results in
| massive changes of struct's members fro int pid to struct
| pid *pid, task->pid becomes the virtual id and so on and
| so forth.
| My approach is to keep the good old logic in the kernel.
| The task->pid is a global and unique pid, find_pid() finds
| the pid by its global id and so on. The virtual ids appear
| on the user-kernel boundary only. Thus drivers and other
| kernel code may still be unaware of pids unless they do not
| communicate with the userspace and get/put numerical pids.
|
| And some more minor differences:
|
| 2. Suka's patches have the limit of pid namespace nesting.
| My patches do not.
|
| 3. Suka assumes that pid namespace can live without proc mount
| and tries to make the code work with pid_ns->proc_mnt change
| from NULL to not-NULL from times to times.
| My code calls the kern_mount() at the namespace creation and
| thus the pid_namespace always works with proc.
|
| There are some small issues that I can describe if someone is
| interested.
|
| The tests like nptl perf, unixbench spawn, getpid and others
| didn't reveal any performance degradation in init_namespace
| with the RHEL5 kernel .config file. I admit, that different
| .config-s may show that patches hurt the performance, but the
| intention was *not* to make the kernel work worse with popular
| distributions.
|
| This set has some ways to move forward, but this is some kind
| of a core, that do not change the init_pid_namespace behavior
| (checked with LTP tests) and may require some hacking to do
| with the namespaces only.
|
| Patches apply to 2.6.22-rc6-mm1.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-10 4:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-06 8:01 [PATCH 0/16] Pid namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:03 ` [PATCH 1/16] Round up the API Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 20:18 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10 6:40 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 7:34 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-06 8:03 ` [PATCH 2/16] Miscelaneous preparations for namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 20:22 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10 6:42 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:04 ` [PATCH 3/16] Introduce MS_KERNMOUNT flag Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:05 ` [PATCH 4/16] Change data structures for pid namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 20:25 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10 4:32 ` sukadev
2007-07-10 7:04 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 12:07 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-06 8:05 ` [PATCH 5/16] Make proc be mountable from different " Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:06 ` [PATCH 6/16] Helpers to obtain pid numbers Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 5:18 ` sukadev
2007-07-10 6:49 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:07 ` [PATCH 7/16] Helpers to find the task by its numerical ids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 4:00 ` sukadev
2007-07-10 6:47 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:07 ` [PATCH 8/16] Masquerade the siginfo when sending a pid to a foreign namespace Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 4:18 ` sukadev
2007-07-10 6:56 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:08 ` [PATCH 9/16] Make proc_flust_task to flush entries from multiple proc trees Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:08 ` [PATCH 10/16] Changes in copy_process() to work with pid namespaces Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-12 0:21 ` sukadev
2007-07-06 8:09 ` [PATCH 11/16] Add support for multiple kmem caches for pids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:10 ` [PATCH 12/16] Reference counting of pid naspaces by pids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:10 ` [PATCH 13/16] Switch to operating with pid_numbers instead of pids Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-25 0:36 ` sukadev
2007-07-25 10:07 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-25 19:13 ` sukadev
2007-07-26 6:42 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2007-07-06 8:11 ` [PATCH 14/16] Make pid namespaces clonnable Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:13 ` [PATCH 15/16] Changes to show virtual ids to user Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 8:16 ` [PATCH 16/16] Remove already unneeded memners from struct pid Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-06 16:26 ` [PATCH 0/16] Pid namespaces Dave Hansen
2007-07-09 5:58 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 19:58 ` Dave Hansen
2007-07-09 12:02 ` Herbert Poetzl
2007-07-09 13:16 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 19:52 ` Herbert Poetzl
2007-07-09 20:12 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-10 6:59 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-09 17:46 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-09 20:06 ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-07-09 23:00 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-10 7:05 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 11:30 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 12:05 ` Daniel Lezcano
2007-07-10 13:03 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 20:34 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-10 13:06 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 20:33 ` Badari Pulavarty
2007-07-09 21:42 ` sukadev
2007-07-10 0:29 ` sukadev
2007-07-10 9:41 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 13:08 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-10 4:26 ` sukadev [this message]
2007-07-10 7:02 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-11 1:16 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11 6:39 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-07-11 15:14 ` Matt Mackall
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