From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:55:14 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070711005514.GA29071@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070711003611.GY11115@waste.org>
* Matt Mackall (mpm@selenic.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 10:02:23AM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > >I like this patch a lot. Even if we don't add the underlying mechanism
> > >right now, adding migration_disable as an alias for preempt_disable
> > >will much better document quite a number of the users.
> >
> > I'd have no problem with that, and it might make it easier in future to
> > justify a more complex scheme.
>
> What do you think, Mathieu?
>
That's an excellent idea. It should probably come with some
documentation explaining what difference should be expected between
preempt_disable and migrate_disable in the future so that people can
choose the right alternative for their code.
> Also, small nit: it ought to be migrate_disable to match the form of
> preempt_disable.
Yes, that's fine with me. :)
I though a little more about this whole concept of migrate_disable, and
I think it could be brought further. One of the main problems with per
cpu variables is that this concept cannot be ported to this grey place
called "user-space" because preemption cannot be disabled. The
equivalent (kind of) is currently per thread variables, but it can
consume a lot of space if many threads are running.
However, it could be possible, if we implement a vsyscall based
migration preemption counter accessible with read/write access from
user-space, to tie a thread to a CPU during a user-space critical path.
If we combine this with local atomic operations done in user-space, we
could have highly scalable access to per cpu data structures reentrant
with respect to signal handlers.
Mathieu
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-11 0:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-05 21:51 [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-05 22:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-07-06 6:12 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-06 14:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 14:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-07-06 15:43 ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-08 9:05 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 23:39 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11 0:02 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-11 0:36 ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11 0:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-07-11 1:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-06 11:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 14:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 17:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-11 4:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-23 18:33 ` Ingo Molnar
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2007-07-06 6:02 Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-06 14:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 14:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
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