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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:55:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070711005514.GA29071@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070711003611.GY11115@waste.org>

* Matt Mackall (mpm@selenic.com) wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 10:02:23AM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > >I like this patch a lot. Even if we don't add the underlying mechanism
> > >right now, adding migration_disable as an alias for preempt_disable
> > >will much better document quite a number of the users.
> > 
> > I'd have no problem with that, and it might make it easier in future to
> > justify a more complex scheme.
> 
> What do you think, Mathieu?
> 

That's an excellent idea. It should probably come with some
documentation explaining what difference should be expected between
preempt_disable and migrate_disable in the future so that people can
choose the right alternative for their code.

> Also, small nit: it ought to be migrate_disable to match the form of
> preempt_disable.

Yes, that's fine with me. :)

I though a little more about this whole concept of migrate_disable, and
I think it could be brought further. One of the main problems with per
cpu variables is that this concept cannot be ported to this grey place
called "user-space" because preemption cannot be disabled. The
equivalent (kind of) is currently per thread variables, but it can
consume a lot of space if many threads are running.

However, it could be possible, if we implement a vsyscall based
migration preemption counter accessible with read/write access from
user-space, to tie a thread to a CPU during a user-space critical path.
If we combine this with local atomic operations done in user-space, we
could have highly scalable access to per cpu data structures reentrant
with respect to signal handlers.

Mathieu

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Mathieu Desnoyers
Computer Engineering Ph.D. Student, Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-11  0:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-05 21:51 [RFC] Thread Migration Preemption Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-05 22:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2007-07-06  6:12 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-06 14:34   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 14:34   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-07-06 15:43     ` Daniel Walker
2007-07-08  9:05     ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 23:39   ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11  0:02     ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-11  0:36       ` Matt Mackall
2007-07-11  0:55         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-07-11  1:15           ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-06 11:59 ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-06 14:41   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 17:11     ` Andi Kleen
2007-07-11  4:57       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-23 18:33 ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-07-06  6:02 Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-06 14:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-07-06 14:56   ` Oleg Nesterov

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